I'm not sure it's a case of "stopping doubt." I don't feel that I'm resisting. The truth is I go about my day, do my work, feed my family, play some games online when I have time, and so on. Then I come here to see if anyone's saying anything interesting enough for me to merit sharpening my linguistic teeth. It's a hobby.

At no point in this, and with exposure to any of the religious members' ideas here, do I feel internal or cognitive struggle. Generally speaking, I do have great struggle comprehending reality, the nature of mind, and the Universe, and I'm perfectly willing to accept the possibility of a deity or even something I would call God. I'd say I'm relatively fertile soil for a really compelling religious idea-- but so far, it just seems like people making stuff up, and I can do that all on my own.

(September 1, 2017 at 4:10 pm)Hammy Wrote: What's up LFC?

She's just been told she's been turned into James Earl Jones.

LOL! It was a chore all right. But MK made a good point that I wasn't addressing the entirety of his post, and since he was gone a long time, I felt the least I could do was put in the effort.

Bottom line, most of us would have to suffer extreme brain trauma to be capable of believing in and accepting the claims for MK's sky daddy. That he currently believes it for probably even worse reasons than he's trying to peddle to us, and the resulting demonstration of its negative effect on his mental state, does not make a tempting offer for anyone who's spent the majority of their life enjoying a healthy, functional, reasonably intelligent mind.

I literally got the message he was putting across to be analogous to, "So because each of my fingernails is painted a different shade of pink, that is why all pickled herring tastes like grape Kool-Aid." Completely non-sequitur in the reason for his conclusion, completely erroneous conclusion, and complete and utter failure to realize this.

*smiles*

(September 1, 2017 at 9:34 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:

(September 1, 2017 at 6:33 pm)Alex K Wrote: Ok then let's concentrate on that one if you say so.

I don't understand a single word. This summary is just gibberish to me. Maybe too compressed?

If we aren't perceived as we are, we don't have an exact value. We do have an exact value. Therefore we are perceived exactly as we are. The only Vision that can see our exact value is perfect judgment. 

Yes, this absolutely proves God.

Without a better book keeper I can't tell you what I'm worth.  Of course my dogs tend to inflate my value and my wife tends to underestimate it.  But all fooling aside, that sure seems like one very cockamamy idea.