(September 4, 2017 at 4:06 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:(September 4, 2017 at 3:58 pm)pocaracas Wrote: MK, you use the word "value" a lot, here.
What is value?
Do things have value? I'd say that somethings, yes... and somethings we don't care...
Does money have value? Very much, huh? What makes money valuable? Does it have the same value to everyone? Does it have some "exact value"?
To my kids, I am more valuable than I am to you, am I not?
Like money, each of us has a value that is different for each person evaluating us.... and we evaluate ourselves, too.
Those values are all different, and none is exact.
This is so manifest, so apparent, so clear, that we don't need anything else, other than humans, to give us value.
Why do you think that your "reasoning" has any merit?
Why do you keep coming here with these futile arguments?
Do you enjoy being told time and time again "Wrong!! Go back to the drawing board!"?
Please think about what these concepts (like value) represent, before you go off and write a near-incomprehensible wall of text that can easily be picked apart, because you're using the concepts in a woo fashion that is not what they were generated for.
I am talking about the exact value we have as individuals.
I know what you think you're talking about.
What I ask is if that is a thing that exists as you think it does.
The way I see it, value is attributed by humans.
Think of money. What makes it valuable? Do small round metal things have any "exact value"? Or do they have the value that each person attributes to it? Does the same thing have the same monetary cost in different shops?