RE: The atheists catch 22 situation.
October 18, 2017 at 6:32 pm
(This post was last modified: October 18, 2017 at 6:44 pm by Little Rik.)
(October 18, 2017 at 2:33 pm)JackRussell Wrote: LR, I know you have never, ever been wrong.
But you have also never, ever shown any of your ideas to be correct to anybody that cares about reality.
DK poster boy for the win, I guess.
I suppose you are a reality expert Jack.
Would you be so kind to explain LR what the reality is?
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(October 17, 2017 at 2:39 pm)mordant Wrote:(October 17, 2017 at 2:33 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: No, it is not a catch 22.Yes, these three gods are indistinguishable:
Any god, who wants me to know he exists, and understands what constitutes evidence based thinking, reasoned argument, and valid/sound logic, would also understand my reasons for not being convinced he exists. He would also know how to convince me, yet he constantly fails to do so.
So, I am left with the following conclusions:
1. He doesn't care if I believe he exists.
2. He does not manifest in reality, therefore leaves no evidence of his existence. And is therefore indistinguishable from a god that does not exist.
3. Or he doesn't exist.
If he exists, yet refuses to demonstrate his existence to me, and is going to punish me for not believing he exists, then I want nothing to do with a god like that. That is an immoral god.
1) Absent
2) Indifferent
3) Non-existent
Technically and less plausibly I suppose you could ad 4) Hiding just to dick with us or more concisely, 4) Sadistic.
Nothing says god has to be present, caring, and existing ... it's fine if he's not, except that there are so many lavish claims / promises otherwise in scripture, that god, if it exists, is not only AWOL and uncaring but a bald-faced liar.
If as you say...........there are so many lavish claims / promises otherwise in scripture, that god, if it exists............blah, blah, blah...............then take the complain with those who write those books or the religions that say this or that.
God never did write any books nor He started any religions.
I guess you never thought about that mord, did you?