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RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia
January 23, 2018 at 5:15 pm
(January 23, 2018 at 4:44 pm)A Theist Wrote: What strikes me is that they didn't forcibly hack their way into the DNC and Clinton emails. They gained access through a simple phishing scheme. They were basically invited in.

If by "invited in" you mean some person within the DNC opened a viral attachment or inadvertently gave away their credentials, then sure. Phishing schemes aren't direct hacking attacks, but they are still pretty effective at gaining access. What the Russians did after they gained access is certainly forcible hacking. If the Russians had a person within the DNC, they wouldn't have needed the phishing scheme in the first place.

Quote:Even with that, there's no evidence that the Russians were able to change the outcome of the election.

No evidence yet, but the investigation is still underway. In the absence of actual vote tampering, the question of whether the outcome of the election was changed by Russian interference is difficult, if not impossible to answer. One could argue that the release of the DNC emails irreparably damaged Clinton, that the fake news posts on Facebook and other social media helped swing votes away from her too. Without that interference, would she have clung on in more swing states? Nobody knows.

Quote:But, from what I see, Russian interference in our elections isn't what the media is reporting. That's just a by story to their trying to indict Trump of colluding with Russia. They've messed up so many times that the more important story of Russian interference has stayed in the shadows.

I agree, but it isn't helped by the fact that a number of close associates with Trump are being linked to Russia, so I can't say I'm surprised by the stories. Let's put it this way: if Trump didn't collude with Russia, there sure were a lot of weird connections to Russia throughout his campaign. He did however make some statements on the campaign (and after) about having a better relationship with Russia, so that might explain why. I think that's pretty much all you can say regarding collusion at this point.
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CNN: No one cares about Russia - by John V - January 23, 2018 at 12:58 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Joods - January 23, 2018 at 1:01 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by John V - January 23, 2018 at 1:07 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Joods - January 23, 2018 at 1:16 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by John V - January 23, 2018 at 1:21 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Neo-Scholastic - January 23, 2018 at 11:20 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Minimalist - January 23, 2018 at 1:02 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Mr.Obvious - January 23, 2018 at 1:11 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by DLJ - January 23, 2018 at 1:17 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Crossless2.0 - January 23, 2018 at 1:17 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by The Grand Nudger - January 23, 2018 at 1:28 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Joods - January 23, 2018 at 1:48 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by vulcanlogician - January 23, 2018 at 1:48 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by downbeatplumb - January 23, 2018 at 1:58 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Thumpalumpacus - January 23, 2018 at 2:08 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Joods - January 23, 2018 at 2:27 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Thumpalumpacus - January 23, 2018 at 3:03 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Joods - January 23, 2018 at 3:07 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by John V - January 23, 2018 at 3:22 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Joods - January 23, 2018 at 3:27 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by The Grand Nudger - January 23, 2018 at 2:11 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Rev. Rye - January 23, 2018 at 2:27 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by henryp - January 23, 2018 at 2:32 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Crossless2.0 - January 23, 2018 at 2:37 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by henryp - January 23, 2018 at 2:46 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Crossless2.0 - January 23, 2018 at 2:47 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by John V - January 23, 2018 at 3:20 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Joods - January 23, 2018 at 2:38 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by henryp - January 23, 2018 at 2:48 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Joods - January 23, 2018 at 3:03 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Crossless2.0 - January 23, 2018 at 3:15 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by The Grand Nudger - January 23, 2018 at 2:44 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Tiberius - January 23, 2018 at 2:55 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by henryp - January 23, 2018 at 3:06 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Tiberius - January 23, 2018 at 3:16 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by henryp - January 23, 2018 at 3:36 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by John V - January 23, 2018 at 3:43 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by A Theist - January 23, 2018 at 3:57 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Tiberius - January 23, 2018 at 4:08 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by John V - January 23, 2018 at 4:14 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by CapnAwesome - January 23, 2018 at 4:19 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by A Theist - January 23, 2018 at 4:44 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by purplepurpose - January 23, 2018 at 2:59 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by The Grand Nudger - January 23, 2018 at 3:07 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Anomalocaris - January 23, 2018 at 3:09 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Thumpalumpacus - January 23, 2018 at 3:10 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Joods - January 23, 2018 at 3:16 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by LadyForCamus - January 23, 2018 at 3:17 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Crossless2.0 - January 23, 2018 at 3:21 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by GUBU - January 23, 2018 at 3:19 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Joods - January 23, 2018 at 3:21 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Tiberius - January 23, 2018 at 3:22 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Crossless2.0 - January 23, 2018 at 3:27 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by John V - January 23, 2018 at 3:28 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by shadow - January 25, 2018 at 12:43 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by John V - January 25, 2018 at 2:00 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Tiberius - January 23, 2018 at 3:25 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by LadyForCamus - January 23, 2018 at 3:27 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Joods - January 23, 2018 at 3:29 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Tiberius - January 23, 2018 at 3:36 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by John V - January 23, 2018 at 3:41 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Thumpalumpacus - January 23, 2018 at 3:51 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by John V - January 23, 2018 at 4:05 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Thumpalumpacus - January 23, 2018 at 4:15 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by John V - January 23, 2018 at 3:37 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by The Grand Nudger - January 23, 2018 at 3:38 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Crossless2.0 - January 23, 2018 at 3:44 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Tiberius - January 23, 2018 at 3:42 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by LadyForCamus - January 23, 2018 at 3:43 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by John V - January 23, 2018 at 3:51 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Crossless2.0 - January 23, 2018 at 3:55 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Thumpalumpacus - January 23, 2018 at 3:57 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by John V - January 23, 2018 at 4:03 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Thumpalumpacus - January 23, 2018 at 4:08 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Joods - January 23, 2018 at 3:45 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by The Grand Nudger - January 23, 2018 at 3:45 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Tiberius - January 23, 2018 at 3:45 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by John V - January 23, 2018 at 3:56 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Tiberius - January 23, 2018 at 3:48 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by The Grand Nudger - January 23, 2018 at 3:51 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by The Grand Nudger - January 23, 2018 at 3:53 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Tiberius - January 23, 2018 at 4:04 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by CapnAwesome - January 23, 2018 at 4:13 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by The Grand Nudger - January 23, 2018 at 4:22 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by CapnAwesome - January 23, 2018 at 4:40 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Thumpalumpacus - January 24, 2018 at 1:08 am
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by The Grand Nudger - January 23, 2018 at 4:45 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by CapnAwesome - January 23, 2018 at 4:50 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by The Grand Nudger - January 23, 2018 at 4:54 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by CapnAwesome - January 23, 2018 at 4:55 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by The Grand Nudger - January 23, 2018 at 5:02 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Tiberius - January 23, 2018 at 5:15 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by John V - January 23, 2018 at 5:19 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by A Theist - January 25, 2018 at 9:57 am
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Brian37 - January 25, 2018 at 12:48 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by The Grand Nudger - January 23, 2018 at 5:20 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Tiberius - January 23, 2018 at 5:41 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by John V - January 24, 2018 at 7:32 am
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by DLJ - January 23, 2018 at 10:35 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by The Grand Nudger - January 23, 2018 at 11:17 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by The Grand Nudger - January 24, 2018 at 1:47 am
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Brian37 - January 24, 2018 at 10:38 am
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by DLJ - January 24, 2018 at 11:02 am
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Brian37 - January 24, 2018 at 3:40 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by FFaith - January 24, 2018 at 2:00 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Neo-Scholastic - January 24, 2018 at 2:15 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Thumpalumpacus - January 24, 2018 at 4:16 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by FFaith - January 24, 2018 at 7:42 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Thumpalumpacus - January 25, 2018 at 2:12 am
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by FFaith - January 25, 2018 at 10:25 am
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by DLJ - January 25, 2018 at 11:17 am
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Thumpalumpacus - January 25, 2018 at 12:34 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Neo-Scholastic - January 25, 2018 at 1:45 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Thumpalumpacus - January 25, 2018 at 1:52 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Neo-Scholastic - January 24, 2018 at 10:50 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by DLJ - January 24, 2018 at 10:54 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by The Grand Nudger - January 24, 2018 at 2:03 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by The Grand Nudger - January 24, 2018 at 2:41 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by purplepurpose - January 24, 2018 at 2:42 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Anomalocaris - January 24, 2018 at 4:37 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Brian37 - January 24, 2018 at 4:46 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by The Grand Nudger - January 24, 2018 at 9:59 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by The Grand Nudger - January 24, 2018 at 10:53 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by The Grand Nudger - January 24, 2018 at 11:11 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Tiberius - January 25, 2018 at 12:02 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by A Theist - January 25, 2018 at 2:13 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Tiberius - January 25, 2018 at 4:38 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by A Theist - January 25, 2018 at 5:18 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by CapnAwesome - January 25, 2018 at 8:05 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by The Grand Nudger - January 25, 2018 at 1:48 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by The Grand Nudger - January 25, 2018 at 1:56 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Thumpalumpacus - January 25, 2018 at 3:30 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by The Grand Nudger - January 25, 2018 at 2:06 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by The Grand Nudger - January 25, 2018 at 3:33 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Thumpalumpacus - January 25, 2018 at 3:52 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by shadow - January 25, 2018 at 7:56 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Iroscato - January 25, 2018 at 3:41 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by The Grand Nudger - January 25, 2018 at 4:20 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Thumpalumpacus - January 25, 2018 at 4:24 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by The Grand Nudger - January 25, 2018 at 4:35 pm
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by The Grand Nudger - January 26, 2018 at 12:11 am
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Fireball - January 26, 2018 at 12:24 am
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by The Grand Nudger - January 26, 2018 at 12:25 am
RE: CNN: No one cares about Russia - by Amarok - January 27, 2018 at 11:11 pm

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