RE: The Objective Moral Values Argument AGAINST The Existence Of God
May 1, 2018 at 11:48 am
(This post was last modified: May 1, 2018 at 11:54 am by Edwardo Piet.)
(May 1, 2018 at 10:55 am)Khemikal Wrote:(May 1, 2018 at 10:17 am)Hammy Wrote: The whole point of an argument is to make things explicit.I was thinking more along the lines of;
Objective moral values do exist.(3)
If all other relevant reasons are equal then it is more rational to be parsimonious.(1)
There is simply no reason to believe that the existence of objective moral values require God's existence.(2)
Quote:The whole point was to spell out how even if objective moral values do exist it's much more rational to believe in objective moral values without believing in God.I think the above stresses that point much better.
That isn't an argument against god..either in existence or the rationality of god belief, however. It's a position freely open to the faithful, who are very much capable of believing in objective moral values not contingent upon some god.
I've took you off block: Change of plan.
I've decided that rather than wasting no time and energy on you.... I'll just waste far less of it. So I'll be much briefer in my responses to you As being thorough with you seems pointless when you miss 90% of what I actually wrote.
Okay so I'll be brief: 1. Your short argument doesn't lead to the conclusion that was supposed to be demonstrated 2. You have failed to demonstrate how my argument does not follow from its premises despite claiming otherwise.
EDIT: Taking henryp off block too. It's not that you guys aren't worth ANY of my time and energy... it's just that you're worth very little of it and if you're not gonna address 90% of what I say 90% of the time then I may as well be brief. Especially when my verbosity seems to confuse the both of you as you clearly miss many of my points and see my posts as missing things they're not missing.