RE: Atheism vs. the Quran
September 8, 2013 at 6:19 am
(This post was last modified: September 8, 2013 at 6:24 am by paulpablo.)
1st reason why I think Islam is a man made cult.
The quran says warners were sent to every nation in the world, but like every single other cult in the world it has been spread by people.
There's so many different levels on why to me this makes Islam appear to be a cult.
This isn't proof that Islam is a cult, but Islam has spread in exactly the way you would expect a man made cult to.
Like every single other cult in the world it has been spread by people. No cult has ever encountered another cult that I'm aware of in the history of the world and said
" Oh so god came and spoke to you too and gave you the exact same message and exact rules, I guess we can live in peace."
It probably has happened before two religions living in total peace, but what I mean is even the religions living in peace beside each other must notice differences in religious rules and commandments whatever you want to call them.
No one has ever encountered a nation with their own version of the quran independent of the one made by muhammad, no one has even encountered tribes who were warned about alcohol and pork before coming into contact with alcohol and pork and who also show modesty with clothing and pray facing, none of them were told about mecca or facing it while praying.
If there were other warners to other nations these warners obviously forgot to include a LOT of the things muslims usually find very very important.
Like I said previously it's very difficult to find 2 muslims with the same view on what the quran is telling them because it is vague and written in one language, not a universal book everyone can easily accessibly read at all.
To me a book that causes peace among people, prosperity and uses clear language and spreads a very clear message among every single on of its readers that was created within the last decade is much more impressive than a book that hasn't been changed for 1500 years or so yet is so vague everyone of its readers and followers comes away with a different interpretation and the followers kill each other and other people and anyone who insults the book or the so called prophet.
I can't prove that god didn't spread his message in a way that exactly conforms to how a cult would spread if it were man made though.
All the first two posts try to show is that there's no reason to actually begin to take the quran seriously and the message of Islam has been spread exactly the way every other cult has spread.
The quran says warners were sent to every nation in the world, but like every single other cult in the world it has been spread by people.
There's so many different levels on why to me this makes Islam appear to be a cult.
This isn't proof that Islam is a cult, but Islam has spread in exactly the way you would expect a man made cult to.
Like every single other cult in the world it has been spread by people. No cult has ever encountered another cult that I'm aware of in the history of the world and said
" Oh so god came and spoke to you too and gave you the exact same message and exact rules, I guess we can live in peace."
It probably has happened before two religions living in total peace, but what I mean is even the religions living in peace beside each other must notice differences in religious rules and commandments whatever you want to call them.
No one has ever encountered a nation with their own version of the quran independent of the one made by muhammad, no one has even encountered tribes who were warned about alcohol and pork before coming into contact with alcohol and pork and who also show modesty with clothing and pray facing, none of them were told about mecca or facing it while praying.
If there were other warners to other nations these warners obviously forgot to include a LOT of the things muslims usually find very very important.
Like I said previously it's very difficult to find 2 muslims with the same view on what the quran is telling them because it is vague and written in one language, not a universal book everyone can easily accessibly read at all.
To me a book that causes peace among people, prosperity and uses clear language and spreads a very clear message among every single on of its readers that was created within the last decade is much more impressive than a book that hasn't been changed for 1500 years or so yet is so vague everyone of its readers and followers comes away with a different interpretation and the followers kill each other and other people and anyone who insults the book or the so called prophet.
I can't prove that god didn't spread his message in a way that exactly conforms to how a cult would spread if it were man made though.
All the first two posts try to show is that there's no reason to actually begin to take the quran seriously and the message of Islam has been spread exactly the way every other cult has spread.
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