(June 20, 2018 at 5:26 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:(June 20, 2018 at 12:22 am)Godscreated Wrote:
God does accept people as they are, it doesn't matter your condition. What matters is you are wanting a change and God wants to be there to guide you through the change. God accepted me as I was and accepts me as I am now, His love has rang true in my life because I wanted it.
Agape... with conditions. Sorry, GC, it doesn't work that way. If he doesn't accept me unless I want to change, then he doesn't truly accept me. Your complaint is ridiculous on the face of it. What if you said to your wife, "I accept you as you are, but only if you're willing to change"? That would be pure hypocrisy.
Steve has given you the answer. Agape has no conditions and I said that at the beginning of the post. I can love and do love many different people but I do not have to like certain things about them to love them, including my wife. Like Steve said, God loves you but He will not allow your sin into His presence. That sin part of your life is what has to change, you being willing and God directing.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.