RE: Can God love?
June 21, 2018 at 1:54 am
(This post was last modified: June 21, 2018 at 2:04 am by Fake Messiah.)
(June 20, 2018 at 1:32 pm)Drich Wrote:(June 20, 2018 at 12:55 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: LOL! Listen to this absurdity: because I stand for the opposite principles than ISIS I am like ISIS. It seems that you have much more in common with ISIS like you both hate gay people's right to marriage (if not even the mere existence of gays) and woman's rights.You have no 'moral stability' you right and wrong are based on society.. So then what makes you think this society can not make mistakes? what makes you think this society hasn't already made huge mistakes? So why then haven't stand against your pop morality? that's right because you have no sense of true righteousness and you've been programed to do what ever society says without question. Just like the ISIS guys and just like the Nazis in germany.
And yet I end up having completely opposite stance on gays, women rights and Jews than ISIS. While it is you who is following "right" moral credo end up having same stance as ISIS & Hitler. As well as many other Christian pastors like pastor Steven Anderson
My morality, as well as any sane person, comes from what makes sense and not just what it says in the Bible. Like gays - you, ISIS, Hitler and Steven Anderson want to kill them because it says so in the Bible/ Koran, while I rationally ask myself "Is there any reason to kill gay people? Are they doing harm by their existence? Is there any reason except Bible not to allow gays to marry? What harm does gay marriage does? (answer: none)". I don't blindly follow some barbaric Bronze Age stance, I think.
(June 20, 2018 at 1:32 pm)Drich Wrote: Now because you have never challenged or said I can not stand with popular morality it is wrong, that puts you in the same boat as a radicalized ISIS fighter or a 1930's german. Meaning with your current mind set if you were born in an isis rule area or in 1930 germany your value system would allow you to simply do what the crowd is doing, if ISIS rape murder steal, if German basically the white version of that.
ISIS taking it's morals from popular morality? What are you smoking? They take their morals from an ancient holy book, just like you do and just like ISIS & Hitler do.
If I was born in ISIS rule? And yet you weren't born in ISIS rule and would still do terror attack that ISIS does, like their attacks and killing of Muslims, or their bombings of music concerts that represent popular culture that you hate so much and see it as source of evil. It's because you were both brainwashed by same primitive people that wrote basically same books.
There are, after all, millions of nonbelievers in the US alone. If they are the most immoral people in America we should notice their reign of terror. Strangely, however, atheists are not raping and pillaging and generally clogging America's court systems at a detectable rate. These people, supposedly immoral by definition, seem eerily quiet.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"