RE: Can God love?
June 21, 2018 at 10:37 am
(This post was last modified: June 21, 2018 at 10:52 am by Drich.)
(June 20, 2018 at 3:00 pm)Astreja Wrote:(June 20, 2018 at 1:55 pm)Drich Wrote: I can move in and out of your society with easy further more I can also move in and out of far eastern societies with little difficulty as well, why? because I master pop cultures when I was 10.
You haven't mastered it, Drich. You're playing Don Quixote, tilting at the windmill of "I understand this world better than you ever will." You're an angry little pissant who hasn't even figured out the link between rhetorical persuasion and basic courtesy.
based on what? what you read here?
what if I went idk just a little deeper than that?
What if growing up in a two cultured house hold gave me perspective on both? Could it not then stand to reason I learn to play two seperate cultural roles at a very young age?
(June 20, 2018 at 6:16 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: I mean, this thread has talked about god's purported unconditional love - agape - yet the best analogy is not letting a loved one into the house because of their muddy shoes? Or because of their addiction (which is an illness)?
Man, if I loved someone, I wouldn't throw them out because of muddy shoes, even if it happened every day. What I'd do instead would be to make them clean up the mess. You know, actual, personal atonement, not done through a proxy. Similarly, I'd do what I could to help a loved one in the grip of addiction seek help. Maybe I'd have to distance myself from them at some point, but I'd damn well make an honest effort to help them before it got to that point.
Well try this is muddy shoes is too deep.
Agape means all sin for everyone has been forgiven.
This means the only thing keeping us from entering heaven is our own want or will to be with God.
Meaning the gates are open to anyone willing to love/serve God. which ultimatly means having enough respect for God to honor and accept what Christ has done on our behalf.
No other morality point matter.
That means the only reason your don't go to heaven is because you do not want to go. or put it another way the only way you go in under these conditions is if God drags you into heaven kicking and screaming.
So where is the hate? where does agape fall short here?
God has open the gate to all who would enter in all that is required is an acknowledgment to Christ's sacrifice. at the same time he does not drag anyone kicking and screaming into heaven.
Again I dont see the hate or absence of love. He has eliminated all requirments concerning moral law and left it up to personal choice and stands by your choice.
Problem is most of you want to order what is not on the menu.
Agape allows you to eat anything the restraunt has to offer, but you want what it does not. a heaven with out God. Gapae entitles you to have all that God offers bt nothing more. which is why most of you elect to not enter heaven