RE: Can God love?
June 22, 2018 at 8:24 am
(This post was last modified: June 22, 2018 at 8:29 am by possibletarian.)
(June 22, 2018 at 1:10 am)Godscreated Wrote: Who said God would love you "if," not one Christian here has said that, so why don't you just get on with some response that addresses what we are saying instead of blaming us and God because you do not feel loved.
Goodness for someone who has spent so much time on these forums you are are lacking understanding, we are dealing with the concept of god's love if a god exists, we are not blaming either you or your non existent god. I also don't feel unloved by Odin, or Thor !
Quote:man has put himself outside of God's presence and it has to be man's choice to return and God has given us a way to do just that, if you do not accept it that is your fault not God's.
So there is an 'if' after all .. oh and a 'it's your fault'
Quote:God paid a terrible price to redeem man and that price was and is agape love.
What a retarded concept for a god who supposedly could simply forgive.
Quote:Because man placed a barrier between himself and God don't you think that it's man's responsibility
Another 'if' we do this or that... with a throw in of 'it's your fault'
Quote:we have no way to make things right between ourselves and our Creator, so God through His undivided love made a way possible for us and if you refuse this gift it's your loss.
And yet another 'if' you... and it's your fault
Quote:acceptance of Christ will open up to you a new world.
Another 'if'
Quote:You are not trying to find God nor His love and you want God to bow down to what you want,
Another 'if' you.. and it's your fault
(I see a pattern here)
Quote:I could love some lady I've known for many years and yet she would never actualize my love until she responded to it, if you do not respond to God's love then you will never actualize it,
Another 'if' you ....
Surely though you would make your love known to her in a discernable real life way before you expect her to respond?
Quote:How is it you can define what God's love is and does, you've never wanted it,
Well accepting love from anon existent deity who's presence is exactly the same as no god at all is difficult yes, you will have to forgive for not having the same fantasy as you... and sighs, yet another 'it's your fault'
Quote:you also are trying to understand a physical love and God's love isn't like that it goes much deeper, beyond understanding... until you accept it.
So if it's beyond understanding how do you understand it. ?
Isn't that exactly the same as saying 'if you believe, then you will believe'
and yes you got it.. yet another 'if' you...
Quote:God is not required to embrace you with His love, until you accept it and then it will never leave you.
Again 'if' you...
Quote:You also can't escape God's love for you because He has done everything to bring you into a relationship with you,
Not what you said before, apparently we can escape god's love, unless being in god's love is being tortured for eternity.
Quote:acceptance of that love by you is all that's left to do. He want force love on you because forced love is no love at all and a relational love requires two, One has the love and the other seems to be pushing it away, making every excuse to keep it at bay, it's your love that's missing, it is your love that is missing.
Another 'if' you.. and a very definite 'it's your fault'
Unconditional love is not 'forced' I can choose to be kind and forgive without forcing my love on anyone, the love i have is about me not others. You have a very backward idea of what love is. also I would add threatening people with eternal torment is pretty much forced love, wouldn't you. ?
Seriously if you start your post with a misunderstanding of the atheist position then the rest is simply gobbleygook, maybe if christians reflected this unconditional deeper, beyond understanding love to the word then you would give us cause to believe at least in your religion, even if not your non existent god. I don't even think you realise how much you repeat the same mantra over and over again, classic sign of a cult.
All this is is another brainwashed, deceptive post on why god is exactly the same as no god at all. Christians.. excuse makers for at the last 2,000 years.
*Bold mine*
'Those who ask a lot of questions may seem stupid, but those who don't ask questions stay stupid'