Can God love?

[Godscreated]

Who said God would love you "if," not one Christian here has said that, so why don't you just get on with some response that addresses what we are saying instead of blaming us and God because you do not feel loved.

Goodness for someone who has spent so much time on these forums you are are lacking understanding, we are dealing with the concept of god's love if a god exists, we are not blaming either you or your non existent god.  I also don't feel unloved by Odin, or Thor !

Odin and Thor are non-existent so why would you feel loved by them. I'm not stupid I know that this is a conversation about if God exists as far as the atheist are concerned. You do not know what might be going through her mind/heart now do you. As far as God being non-existent, you have yet to establish such a claim. 

man has put himself outside of God's presence and it has to be man's choice to return and God has given us a way to do just that, if you do not accept it that is your fault not God's.

So there is an 'if' after all .. oh and a 'it's your fault'

There is no if, either you accept or you do not, it's all up to you. Look at the bold if by me, I us that word to make the statement more acceptable to atheist, but I fixed it and it still reads the same. You reject God that is your fault and a terrible fault it will be, see no if.

God paid a terrible price to redeem man and that price was and is agape love.

What a retarded concept for a god who supposedly could simply forgive.

What makes you believe God can simply forgive sin, because you say so, not hardly. Sin will only be forgiven for those who have remorse over their sin and to do so one must understand what sin is and I've yet to speak to an atheist who knows why sin is sin. By the way what God did is your only hope for eternal life, other wise it will be eternal punishment.

Because man placed a barrier between himself and God don't you think that it's man's responsibility

Another 'if' we do this or that... with a throw in  of 'it's your fault'

Now your just being childish, there's no if to it and it was a question to be answered by the one I posted to, not for a nosy busy body to come along and defect from the discussion.

we have no way to make things right between ourselves and our Creator, so God through His undivided love made a way possible for us and if you refuse this gift it's your loss.

And yet another 'if' you...  and it's your fault

Same as above the bold if by me. leaving out the if doesn't change the fact and it makes it sound as if there is no hope. Why did you jump into this conversation anyway, nothing better to do that to show your ignorance of God would be my guess.

acceptance of Christ will open up to you a new world.

Another 'if'

More childishness and you use if more than I do, but you do it to be derogatory, I place it to show hope, a hope you seem to be careless in handling. By the way that is a positive statement I made, no if to it child, acceptance of Christ will open up to you a new world, in many ways. So far you have completely miss out on what this conversation was about, and I remember she said to Drich to stay on track, which you certainly haven't accomplished at all. 

You are not trying to find God nor His love and you want God to bow down to what you want,

Another 'if' you.. and it's your fault
(I see a pattern here)

The pattern you believe you see exists only in your childish mind. The real pattern here is you can do nothing other than be derogatory about a conversation that wasn't even directed at you, nosy. No that statement is a positive one and true at that. You have no real argument about this conversation only foolish child like nonsense.

I could love some lady I've known for many years and yet she would never actualize my love until she responded to it, if you do not respond to God's love then you will never actualize it,

Another 'if' you ....
Surely though you would make your love known to her in a discernable real life way before you expect her to respond?

That was implied, sorry you are so carried away with your degradation that you are blind to what's being said, but then that would be your fault. Again I eliminated the if and the statement is the same. The if is to make a kinder feeling. You can't understand such a concept though because all you know how to do is blindly follow your ifs.

How is it you can define what God's love is and does, you've never wanted it,

Well accepting love from anon existent deity who's presence is exactly the same as no god at all is difficult yes, you will have to forgive for not having the same fantasy as you... and sighs, yet another 'it's your fault'

I did not say it was her fault, I said she doesn't want something that has been offered, please try and understand an entire conversation before you blatantly try to derail the conversation, a trick of children. Again you have not established God doesn't exist or that He is a fantasy. Because you are blind to the existence of God doesn't mean He isn't real and waiting on you to respond to the love He has already given you.

you also are trying to understand a physical love and God's love isn't like that it goes much deeper, beyond understanding... until you accept it.

So if it's beyond understanding how do you understand it. ?
Isn't that exactly the same as saying 'if you believe, then you will believe'
and yes you got it.. yet another 'if' you...

I've accepted it, you bold the answer why couldn't you see it, shame, shame second grade understanding that is.
No when one believes they know. More ifs from you, only in a derogatory way.
No if in that statement, you are so if crazy you are seeing things, help may be in order for you. It is a completely positive statement and has a result in choice one way or the other and there is no if about it.

God is not required to embrace you with His love, until you accept it and then it will never leave you.

Again 'if' you...

You seem to have left out the more important part of my statement, any reason why other than you have no argument against it. Again no if in that positive statement, it is a fact one you seem oblivious to, that could be a dreadful thing .

You also can't escape God's love for you because He has done everything to bring you into a relationship with you,

Not what you said before, apparently we can escape god's love, unless being in god's love is being tortured for  eternity.

I'm speaking of the present and you have jumped to a future possibility, why, my guess to derail the conversation or show how foolish you are about God. By the way when arguing against what God says please use the correct terminology. No where in the scriptures is hell described as torture, that is your incorrect interpretation of what hell is.

acceptance of that love by you is all that's left to do. He want force love on you because forced love is no love at all and a relational love requires two, One has the love and the other seems to be pushing it away, making every excuse to keep it at bay, it's your love that's missing, it is your love that is missing.

Another 'if' you.. and a very definite 'it's your fault'

if you had a brain and if you could then possibly come to understand what the whole conversation was about, you might be able to have a conversation that consists of something other than if, you whole idea of the conversation is iffy at best. That should be enough ifs to last you a few days.  

Unconditional love is not 'forced' I can choose to be kind and forgive without forcing my love on anyone, the love i have is about me not others. You have a very backward idea of what love is. also I would add  threatening people with  eternal torment is pretty much forced love, wouldn't you. ?

Now go back and reread what I said, for goodness sake get one thing right and stop your elementary quipping. Did I not say that God never forces His love onto anyone. There's your problem, selfishness, loving yourself over others. Love is for others and it is the only way you can have a happy life, loving yourself is a lonely life while loving others brings great things into one's life. Me have a backward idea of love and your the one who claims to love yourself over others, give me a break child. There is no threat of hell, there is however an invitation to eternal life abundant. Rejecting that wonderful life as a consequence, when you reject something you must go in a different direction by necessity. You spout things like a true atheist and your spouting has no merit whatsoever because you have never tried to come to an understanding of God, as you said your love is for yourself and no one else.

Seriously if you start your post with a misunderstanding of the atheist position then the rest is simply gobbleygook, maybe if christians reflected  this unconditional deeper, beyond understanding love to the word then you would give us cause to believe at least in your religion, even if not your non existent god.  I don't even think you realise how much you repeat the same mantra over and over again, classic sign of a cult.

I did not start my post with such a misunderstanding, you wanted to read it that way and that is what you got, you have no idea what the conversation was about, you cared only about nonexistent if that you wanted to pertain to conditions and not one of those if were conditional. It's one way or the other with no ifs involved. Me repeating a mantra, your the one obsessed with the if and one that only existed in your mind not my conversation with another. Your whole purpose is to derail a conversation because you did not like what you read, something that wasn't intended for you in the first place. Christians who care will not sugar coat reality, that would be dishonest. So in being honest we are showing our love, do you really believe I would have stayed here this long and not care about those I speak to, unlike you who speaks at people I speak to them, giving them reason to consider. I have no control over what they decide nor the finial destination, that's between them and God, I can only tell people what the Bible says, you know the Word of God.
 

All this is is another brainwashed, deceptive post on why god is exactly the same as no god at all. Christians.. excuse makers for at the last 2,000 years.

*Bold mine*

 I have been honest and made good points from a reasonable position about God's love for a person who has questioned that love, you never addressed the theme of the conversation and did your best to eliminate the real subject with all your ifs. Your blindness of the scriptures and Jesus may cost you in the future, this is no threat, only you can pay the cost of rejection, for me Christ has already payed my price and I praise Him for that.

GC