Can God love?

[Godscreated]

  I wasn't indoctrinated into anything,

Of course you were, unless of course no one taught you about christianity.

So I guess by your own personal definition you were indoctrinated into science.

I've studied extensively.

You mean the bible right, the indoctrination document ?

For this conversation yes, the document of truth.

Your simple denial will not help you at the judgement,

Of course not, there is no evidence at all that either you or me will ever face judgement

I have all the evidence I need and I guess you'll wait till the time of judgement to have yours. There's no evidence of dark matter or black holes yet the gullible believe there is.

you've been told and will  be held accountable.

Again with the hellfire, and no i wont, there is no sane reason to think there will be judgement, its the stuff of story books. Only those indoctrinated believe such things.

There is no again it is real. Then sanity has eluded you. Many stories have been told in the Bible, they all happen to be real, go figure. Just as the indoctrinated inot science believes in dark matter and black holes with no evidence.

like it or not I've given you the truth, so it is now your's to deal with.

Method, did not need one got my information straight from the One who made the place and who will hold court over all non-believers. What question all you can say this round is indoctrination, indoctrination, indoctrination. Such limited though you are displaying.

Indoctrination.
The difference between education and indoctrination is vast, but it is often subtle when the mind thinks of these two subjects. Education involves the seeking of facts, and learning about what is the truth, and what is not. Indoctrination is aimed at influencing people to believe in facts, without being able to back up these newfound facts with anything but opinion.

Bold and italic mine.
http://www.differencebetween.net/miscell...trination/

You have just described the science and those who believe it of dark matter and black holes. Fact check please there are none for either, yet they are taught as real things.

GC

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[quote='SteveII' pid='1785908' dateline='1530890132']

No, you are not understanding. Holiness and Justice are part of the nature of God and cannot be set aside--even by him. Sin has consequences affecting these attributes. The consequences must be dealt with--satisfying a requirement, which is not the same as an act of God's will (as forgiveness is).

Oh I do understand, but what I don't understand is why you think that god would demand death (consequences) because that's the rules and his holiness/righteousness judgement requires it, then think it's fine he breaks his own rules by sacrificing an innocent person ? isn't that breaking his own rules of righteous judgement too ?   I mean it's not even like jesus's death was ever going to be permanent or anything so he didn't even really pay the price, only played at paying the price.

Even we understand that having the innocent suffer, even as a free choice does not satisfy anything, and if so again we are back to the question..

Why didn't he simply let us off, given that he clearly pays fast and free with his own (supposedly) unbreakable rules anyway. ?

The truth is if god is not big enough to deal in an adult manner with people doing stuff wrong, then what kind of feeble god is he. ?

 You understand what Steve II has been telling you you just do not want to believe it's true, you're afraid. God's God's holiness and justice are who He is and they must be satisfied, just as hunger is part of who you are and must be satisfied. I explained to you earlier in this thread that God did not sacrifice Jesus, the Son of God volunteered, something He did not have to do, but as per you you've conveniently forgotten so you can continue to disrupt conversation. By the way if Jesus did not raise from the dead we would have no hope of eternal life, through His resurrection God proved to us that it is possible to be raised from the dead into eternal life. Christ's death was sufficient to pay the price, it was His sinless life that made Jesus the perfect sacrifice. The truth is your so childish that you can't learn from conversations with Christians, what we tell you is truth, but you are not required to accept it as part of your life, unless you want your life to be a pleasant one for eternity.

GC