Scum-Sucking Xhristard Fuckwit!

[Huggy Bear]

Based on?

Well since you asked...

You cast doubt on her story on the basis that she wouldn't be inconvenienced when there were so many other pharmacies within 2 miles, when the linked story explicitly stated that the pharmacist refused to transfer the prescription.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/2018/10...600714002/

She called her hometown Meijer pharmacy about three-and-a-half hours away in Ionia to see whether the pharmacist there would be willing to fill the prescription for her. He had difficulty retrieving the prescription from the Petoskey store, but was finally able to do it.

You also questioned the timing of her getting the prescription weeks after the (first) miscarriage, when some quick research easily explained why that was.

No, she waited after her SECOND miscarriage.
https://www.freep.com/story/news/2018/10...600714002/
The first miscarriage

Complications soon followed, and Peterson found herself in the emergency room in June. There, she was told she had been about nine weeks pregnant with twins, but had miscarried one. The other fetus, the hospital doctors told her, was a molar pregnancy and not viable.

The second miscarriage

She was buoyed by the news that she was still pregnant, and that there was still a chance she could have a healthy baby.

Nearly two more weeks passed.

"I had really bad morning sickness and was really fatigued, and then one day it all just went away," she said. "I thought it was alarming."

She went to her obstetrician to get checked out.

"They did a viability scan and unfortunately, there was no detectable heart rate," she said. The fetus had died.

She's clearly still in her hometown at this point and it's HER decision to wait it out without using meds.

Peterson's doctor laid out three options:

   
• Wait and see whether her body would be able to completely miscarry without any intervention.
   
  
• Try the drug misoprostol to help move the miscarriage along.
     
  
• Schedule a procedure called dilation and curettage, which is commonly called a D&C, to surgically empty the uterus of any remaining fetal tissue.
  

She chose the least invasive option, and wanted to see what her body could do on its own. When the process took longer than expected, her doctor prescribed the misoprostol to ensure that Peterson would complete the miscarriage and wouldn't develop an infection.

So is it unreasonable to ask why wait till you leave town to try and get the medication?

You then cited US law regarding the transfer of schedule 3, 4, and 5 drugs.  When challenged on the subject of whether misporostol ws a controlled substance, you linked an information page saying that misoprostol was schedule 4.... in South Africa.  You left out the part about it being about South Africa.  It took very little fact-checking to discover that the information page was about South Africa... because that was at the bottom of the very page you linked.  Misoprostol is NOT listed on the DEA's list of controlled substances.  (Scroll down to page 12 of the pdf to see where it would be listed, and isn't, between Midazolam and MMB-CHMICA.)  Again, this is very quick research to do.

Judy was saying that the drug was available over the counter, she has yet to cite sources that corroborate that (for use in the purpose stated).

I already admitted that the source I cited was irrelevant to the US in terms of scheduling, it wasn't intentional. Still according to other sources it can only be obtained legally by medical prescription.

The scheduling isn't the point, the point is whether or not it can be obtained without a prescription, as Judy claimed, got it?

You said that pharmacies don't HAVE to transfer the prescription, yet this company policy explicitly required pharmacists who refuse to fill prescriptions on religious grounds must either hand the prescription off to someone in the same shop or transfer the prescription.  Again, this was easy research to do.

You then attempted to reframe what your point was, suggesting that the pharmacist refused to transfer the prescription out of simple laziness, but again in the linked story the pharmacist explicitly cited his status as a Catholic as part of the reason for his refusal.  Also, your reframing was one under which it makes no sense for you to have linked US law, South African drug scheduling, distance to nearby pharmacies, or time delay between miscarriage and prescription.

All of what you just stated was part of the same post, so what do you mean by "attempt to reframe"?

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Pharmacies don't have to do anything, some offer to transfer as a courtesy, It's you to your doctor to either send the info to the pharmacy, or give you a form which you take yourself to any available pharmacy.

https://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/21cfr...306_25.htm

PART 1306 — PRESCRIPTIONS
CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES LISTED IN SCHEDULES III, IV, and V
§1306.25 Transfer between pharmacies of prescription information for Schedules III, IV, and V controlled substances for refill purposes.

(a) The transfer of original prescription information for a controlled substance listed in Schedule III, IV, or V for the purpose of refill dispensing is permissible between pharmacies on a one-time basis only. However, pharmacies electronically sharing a real-time, online database may transfer up to the maximum refills permitted by law and the prescriber's authorization.

(b) Transfers are subject to the following requirements:

   (1) The transfer must be communicated directly between two licensed pharmacists.

   (2) The transferring pharmacist must do the following:

       (i) Write the word “VOID” on the face of the invalidated prescription; for electronic prescriptions, information that the prescription has been transferred must be added to the prescription record.

       (ii) Record on the reverse of the invalidated prescription the name, address, and DEA registration number of the pharmacy to which it was transferred and the name of the pharmacist receiving the prescription information; for electronic prescriptions, such information must be added to the prescription record.

       (iii) Record the date of the transfer and the name of the pharmacist transferring the information.

Maybe he just didn't want to go through the hassle for someone who isn't a regular customer?

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That being said, the violation of STORE policy does not make this case lawsuit worthy...

You also implied that requiring a prescription makes misoprostol a controlled substance.  This is simply untrue.  Controlled substances refers specifically to substances assigned to a schedule (ranked from 1 to 5) under the system established by the Controlled Substances Act.  Drugs requiring prescriptions are covered by the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetics Act, and include many drugs that are not scheduled under the CSA.  Again, this is easy research to do.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_substance

A controlled substance is generally a drug or chemical whose manufacture, possession, or use is regulated by a government, such as illicitly used drugs or prescription medications that are designated by law.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_and_D...nistration

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA or USFDA) is a federal agency of the United States Department of Health and Human Services, one of the United States federal executive departments. The FDA is responsible for protecting and promoting public health through the control and supervision of food safety, tobacco products, dietary supplements, prescription and over-the-counter pharmaceutical drugs (medications), vaccines, biopharmaceuticals, blood transfusions, medical devices, electromagnetic radiation emitting devices (ERED), cosmetics, animal foods & feed[4] and veterinary products. As of 2017, 3/4th of the FDA budget (approximately $700 million) is funded by the pharmaceutical companies due to the Prescription Drug User Fee Act.

At every step of the way you declined to retract or even acknowledge previous errors.

Really?

Now did I post information irrelevant to the U.S.? sure, but tell me exactly what it changed in regards to needing a prescription?

Nearly all of these are the sort of honest mistakes that people can make.  Or it could be the result of deliberate deception.  No way for me to tell for sure, though your nonsensical reframing that was completely at odds with your previous posts has me leaning towards the idea that something hinky is going on.

But all right, I'll be generous.  I shall suppose that every step of the way you honestly believed the points you were putting forward and that your reframing was out of step with your previous points because, oh, I dunno, you let yourself get derailed or something.  Fine.  It's possible.  Yet even with that level of generosity, we would still have your posts repeatedly lacking in the most basic of fact-checking, your points consistently wrong on most crucial elements, and you contributions universally not something to be trusted or relied upon.

In short, be it deliberate or by a bizarrely negligent failure to do even the most basic of research, pretty much everything you've said in this thread is untrustworthy.

If you go back to my original post, I was simply asking questions about parts of Min's the article that didn't make sense, that was it, I was making no definitive claims about anything.

I hope you keep this same energy about everyone whom you believe is in error...