RE: Why did pagans not take any notice of Jesus?
February 26, 2019 at 3:53 am
(This post was last modified: February 26, 2019 at 4:29 am by Godscreated.)
(February 24, 2019 at 7:58 am)Yonadav Wrote: From a Jewish legal perspective, it seems pretty unlikely that Jesus was Jewish. It really doesn't make sense that Herod would have turned him over to the Romans otherwise. For a Jewish king to hand over a Jewish guy to be punished by gentiles makes absolutely no sense. It simply wouldn't happen. Especially when the gentile authorities send the Jewish guy to the Jewish king, thinking that the guy is a Jew. The only way that Herod sending the guy back to the Romans makes any sense is if Herod determined that the guy was not Jewish.
Herod was a coward who was also smart enough to stay out of a situation that could cause him problems with Rome.
GC
(February 24, 2019 at 2:55 pm)Jehanne Wrote: P.S. If there were true miracles like those in the Gospels, such news would have spread across the entire World, both discovered and that yet to be.
Why, there were no newspapers ,TVs, radios or anything else that would cause these things to spread far and wide, they would fade as they were told because the people then did not care to believe them. They stayed in and around Jerusalem because it was a local thing and a local religion, Jesus himself said, "you have seen my miracles and still you do not believe," and He was not just speaking about himself He was also speaking about the miracles.
(February 23, 2019 at 1:19 pm)Jehanne Wrote: According to Professor Bart Ehrman, Lecture 10, in his New Testament Great Courses series, modern scholars possess hundreds of pagan (non-Christian, non-Jewish) sources from the 1st century. Why is it that none of these sources even mention the existence of Jesus?
As I said in the other thread, they were not interested because they had their own religious beliefs. The Jewish priest never wrote about Him and He faced them many times even at their behesting. They knew He was a real person, they feared Him and rightly so. After what seemed to be His end they were not going to cause this problem they had to live on, yet He has for 2000 years. Also, not many people could read or write in those days and those who could had something to prove or motivate and those outside of Jesus circle of people wanted this man's reputation to die as they though He had died. Here was their attitude see not, hear not, know not, the end, but the story was just beginning. Jesus surrounded himself with literate men that could pass along His story after He was gone from this world, it was no accident and now we have the rest of the story.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.