RE: Active shooter in NZ
March 17, 2019 at 5:48 pm
(This post was last modified: March 17, 2019 at 5:49 pm by WinterHold.)
(March 17, 2019 at 10:46 am)Brian37 Wrote:(March 17, 2019 at 9:48 am)EgoDeath Wrote: What do you mean?
You should be. Just because one can point out drastic cases like spree killers and serial killers, still does not change the cost to tax payers long term.
The cost of appeals is far higher in death penalty cases than merely giving them life in prison with no parole.
And the other problem with it, as with even other crime, is that someone who doesn't have deep pockets to defend themselves, are far more likely to be hurt by the justice system, than a wealthy person accused of the same if innocent. Once you end their life, you can't bring it back if it is later found out they are innocent. Many people have been let off death row too because evidence proved they didn't do it.
The death penalty is not a deterrent, and really is nothing more than state sponsored revenge.
You do not protect the accused because you like what they are charged with, you protect the accused for the greater long term attitude that we should not become a mob rule society.
In a perfect world you'd be right that someone should forfeit their life for mass murder or serial killers. But in the real world innocent people get accused, and those without money to defend themselves are far more likely to be over charged, and or plead out even if innocent, or get wrongfully convicted.
And since I am a tax payer too, please don't speak for me. The death penalty just on cost alone, is enough for me. Killers can still be put in super max prisons and contained without the extra cost.
I totally support the death penalty since:
1-It ceases and stops reasons for revenge (the victim's family/people will have no justifiable reason to keep on killing to "avenge the fallen".
2-It is very just to treat an eye for an eye.
3-Society -with its rich and poor- will think twice -if not thrice- before the commit of murder
4-Instead of assuming scenarios, let's upgrade our crime detection methods and find new ways to identify the real killer.
Many crimes will cease to happen if the state imposed the rightful punishments for certain crimes. You can't just stack up inmates in prison or else you'll have a very powerful -and hidden- evil underground society.
On the long run, executing killers -after proper, extensive investigation- is better for your payed taxes.
Also; killing must be for killers only: no killing for treason -like some secular societies do- or killing for homosexuality -like some Muslim societies do-.