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Choosing who you are
RE: Choosing who you are
(June 7, 2019 at 8:52 am)Mathilda Wrote:
(June 7, 2019 at 7:45 am)Jello Wrote: Identifying as another gender doesn't rid you of the natural pre-dispositions to certain illnesses that each sex has. That's why it is encouraged to put what sex you are born as on medical forms, so your doctor doesn't rule out serious diseases because as far as they know, you shouldn't be susceptible to them. It's not out of hostile intent, it's with the best intent in mind. 

But transitioning means that you are changing the physiology of your body because of the hormones. Writing down male on a medical form when you are male to female would mean that your increased chance of getting breast cancer would be ignored for example. This not just an exception, this is the norm. Other than a few medical conditions specific to fertility a transsexual person's is better treated like that of their chosen gender.

Writing down your assigned gender on a medical form is probably the worst thing you can do.



(June 7, 2019 at 7:45 am)Jello Wrote: Also, i haven't been "completely mistaken" as i am close friends with a trans-person, which i know is a subjective point, but i'd think they would have explained it otherwise to me if they hadn't agreed with the points they'd made, but do go on.

Furthermore, please don't do that "don't feel bad about it though" stuff with me, i find it extremely patronizing, and it really doesn't help further your point.

OK, I'll say it again but without the patronising manner.

You are wrong about putting your assigned gender on the medical form and are ignorant about the psychological harm that having to do so can do to the patient.


(June 7, 2019 at 7:45 am)Jello Wrote: I say that the gender identity is changeable in the sense of "it can be not what you are born as", which i know doesn't quite come through in the actual wording, but i couldn't really think how to put it at the time.

Fair enough.
I'm not ignorant to the psychological harm, and i think it's an interesting attempt to make me look bad, i'm just saying that if you want to look after someone's wellbeing, you gotta include the physiological as well as the mental, or is it just mental health that matters, even when specific cancers that are more common to your sex strike because you didn't want to put what you were born as.

For instance, from my research, the prostate isn't removed in a male-to-female transition. Sure sucks when someone gets really bad prostate cancer because they didn't tell their doctor they were born male. 

Trust me, i wish it were that magical, and that we could just instantaneously be whomever/whatever we want to be. But you gotta consider your physical health, because cancer doesn't care who you are.
"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. For if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes unto you."
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Choosing who you are - by onlinebiker - June 4, 2019 at 11:53 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by Alan V - June 4, 2019 at 12:35 pm
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RE: Choosing who you are - by WinterHold - June 17, 2019 at 10:04 am
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RE: Choosing who you are - by no one - June 6, 2019 at 7:25 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by onlinebiker - June 6, 2019 at 9:47 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by Athene - June 6, 2019 at 10:20 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by no one - June 6, 2019 at 9:59 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by LastPoet - June 6, 2019 at 12:17 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by Jello - June 6, 2019 at 3:21 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by I_am_not_mafia - June 7, 2019 at 2:32 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by Jello - June 7, 2019 at 7:45 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by I_am_not_mafia - June 7, 2019 at 8:52 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by Jello - June 7, 2019 at 3:21 pm
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RE: Choosing who you are - by I_am_not_mafia - June 8, 2019 at 8:07 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by Shell B - June 8, 2019 at 8:15 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by Jello - June 8, 2019 at 8:25 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by arewethereyet - June 8, 2019 at 12:24 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by no one - June 8, 2019 at 3:17 pm
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RE: Choosing who you are - by Shell B - June 17, 2019 at 12:44 pm
RE: Choosing who you are - by no one - June 17, 2019 at 7:20 pm
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RE: Choosing who you are - by WinterHold - June 22, 2019 at 2:59 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by I_am_not_mafia - June 22, 2019 at 3:36 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by WinterHold - June 22, 2019 at 4:15 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by I_am_not_mafia - June 22, 2019 at 5:44 am
RE: Choosing who you are - by no one - June 22, 2019 at 6:04 am

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