Moral Oughts

[GrandizerII]

I don't like the objective vs. subjective question because the cutting line between them can be fuzzy as hell.

The selection itself, I would say, is subjective to the person. The reasons, however, are based on predictions or observed facts.

I’ve had a number of atheists suggest that they have issues with the objective vs subjective distinction, though primarily when it comes to morality.

For the most part, people have less of issue indicating things as objective, such in regards to moral facts, or the tree in front of my yard, but subjective is where they have hangups.

In my view anything that isn’t objective is subjective. So if your consider right and wrong objective truths, but don’t consider moral oughts objective truths, than they’d fall under subjective.

Objective would indicate something that’s true independent of your own personal particularities,
If it’s the sort of things that true for you, but necessarily for me, than they’re subjective.

Ok, so let's put it this way:

P: People I care about would react strongly against me if I steal someone else's wallet.
C: I ought not to steal someone else's wallet.

Where would the subjective bit here be exactly? P seems to indicate an objective truth (if true), not a subjective one. If it's true, it's true regardless of what you or I may think.