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Moral Oughts
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RE: Moral Oughts
August 2, 2019 at 10:47 am (This post was last modified: August 2, 2019 at 10:52 am by Acrobat.)
(August 2, 2019 at 10:44 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: No it doesn’t matter, you’re stalling for time by arguing with yourself.

It does matter, because other people here indicated that they don’t view oughts as objective truths, and indicated that their oughts derived by whether they “care” or not.

I indicated that I view oughts as objective truths, that are true regardless of whether I care or not.

My view could be false if course, by trying to equivocate between the two positions, is dishonest on your part,
(August 2, 2019 at 10:44 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: No it doesn’t matter, you’re stalling for time by arguing with yourself.

Grand gave you a numbered list. Some items were explicitly subjective, others explicitly objective.

No Grand explicitly stated that oughts are not objective truths, unlike good and bad. None of his examples were claims of any of the oughts being objective truths, as a result. If you think they were you’re just misreading him, or he would be contradicting himself.
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Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 1, 2019 at 11:43 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 1, 2019 at 11:47 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2019 at 11:49 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 1, 2019 at 11:52 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2019 at 11:56 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 1, 2019 at 12:02 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by onlinebiker - August 1, 2019 at 12:02 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2019 at 12:04 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by onlinebiker - August 1, 2019 at 12:07 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 1, 2019 at 12:08 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 1, 2019 at 12:06 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Grandizer - August 1, 2019 at 12:07 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 1, 2019 at 12:14 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Grandizer - August 1, 2019 at 12:57 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 1, 2019 at 1:26 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Grandizer - August 1, 2019 at 6:29 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 1, 2019 at 7:02 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Grandizer - August 1, 2019 at 7:21 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 1, 2019 at 7:31 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Grandizer - August 1, 2019 at 7:37 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 1, 2019 at 7:45 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Grandizer - August 3, 2019 at 2:03 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 3, 2019 at 5:43 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Grandizer - August 3, 2019 at 6:33 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 3, 2019 at 6:48 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Grandizer - August 3, 2019 at 7:06 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 3, 2019 at 7:48 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Belacqua - August 3, 2019 at 7:50 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Grandizer - August 3, 2019 at 8:17 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 3, 2019 at 9:45 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2019 at 12:08 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2019 at 12:11 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 1, 2019 at 12:30 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2019 at 12:18 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2019 at 12:36 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 1, 2019 at 12:56 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2019 at 12:58 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2019 at 1:28 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by downbeatplumb - August 1, 2019 at 2:08 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2019 at 2:08 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2019 at 7:27 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2019 at 7:33 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2019 at 7:53 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 2, 2019 at 7:48 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2019 at 8:05 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 2, 2019 at 8:11 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 2, 2019 at 8:19 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2019 at 8:14 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 2, 2019 at 8:52 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2019 at 8:21 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2019 at 8:56 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 2, 2019 at 9:15 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2019 at 9:19 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 2, 2019 at 9:24 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2019 at 9:32 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 2, 2019 at 10:16 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2019 at 10:18 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 2, 2019 at 10:21 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2019 at 10:25 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 2, 2019 at 10:34 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2019 at 10:38 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 2, 2019 at 10:39 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2019 at 10:44 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 2, 2019 at 10:47 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Mister Agenda - August 3, 2019 at 9:53 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by DLJ - August 3, 2019 at 10:01 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 3, 2019 at 11:36 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Abaddon_ire - August 3, 2019 at 7:18 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 3, 2019 at 9:51 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2019 at 9:55 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Abaddon_ire - August 8, 2019 at 6:17 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Grandizer - August 3, 2019 at 1:31 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Mister Agenda - August 3, 2019 at 10:12 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2019 at 12:15 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 7, 2019 at 11:36 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2019 at 1:44 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by EgoDeath - August 3, 2019 at 1:48 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2019 at 2:07 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by EgoDeath - August 3, 2019 at 6:32 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by EgoDeath - August 3, 2019 at 2:10 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2019 at 7:21 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by DLJ - August 4, 2019 at 2:13 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2019 at 9:47 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 4, 2019 at 6:46 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 4, 2019 at 8:03 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 4, 2019 at 10:22 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 4, 2019 at 10:24 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 4, 2019 at 10:32 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 4, 2019 at 10:33 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 4, 2019 at 11:36 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2019 at 11:38 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 8, 2019 at 6:26 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Objectivist - August 29, 2019 at 5:59 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 29, 2019 at 6:40 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Objectivist - August 30, 2019 at 12:24 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 30, 2019 at 4:24 am
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2019 at 7:15 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by John 6IX Breezy - August 29, 2019 at 7:40 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 29, 2019 at 8:20 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2019 at 7:57 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by John 6IX Breezy - August 29, 2019 at 8:06 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2019 at 8:09 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by John 6IX Breezy - August 29, 2019 at 9:43 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2019 at 8:22 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 29, 2019 at 8:27 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2019 at 8:28 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 29, 2019 at 8:32 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2019 at 8:33 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by Acrobat - August 29, 2019 at 8:37 pm
RE: Moral Oughts - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2019 at 8:54 pm

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