RE: That Gay Thread
October 22, 2021 at 8:32 pm
(This post was last modified: October 23, 2021 at 12:31 pm by LadyForCamus.)
So, in the interest of streamlining the conversion so as not to get lost in semantic debate:
Demonstrated false, unless you can produce a list of all-white LGBTQ organizations and then show that they were not among the forty one LGBTQ organizations calling for Ed Buck to be arrested after the second killing.
Demonstrated false. Forty one LGBTQ organizations, safe to assume containing at least some white members, demanded justice after the second killing.
Again, unless you can demonstrate these all-white LGBTQ organizations and show they weren’t among the forty one LGBTQ groups demanding an arrest, then this claim has been shown to be patently, absurdly false.
Now, the question I have for you @Huggy Bear is, will you take a moment to accept that you did not have the pertinent facts to form a complete picture of this topic, and reconsider your position going forward? Or are you just going to double down and barrel forward with inane, and irrelevant semantics because you can’t handle the thought that you were wrong about something?
The genuinely heartbreaking take-away from this conversation is that broadly speaking, you’re not even wrong in believing that the reason it took so long for this man to be charged was, at least in part, because his victims were sex workers who belonged to marginalized groups. We know that law enforcement doesn’t prioritize these types of cases, and we know that marginalized victims don’t get the same media attention as white, straight, cis people. The Gabby Petito case is a perfect example of that. But for whatever reason, instead of seeing the LGBTQ community as an ally to the BPOC community, you believe they’re aggressors out to hurt you. Ironically, if it hadn’t been for the resounding voice of the forty one plus (you should really read that article) LGBTQ organizations in concert with the Black Civil Rights organizations crying out for justice in this case, Ed Buck might still be free somewhere, killing gay black men. But somewhere along the line you learned to hate the people who are on your side.
Quote:Ed Buck got away with it for years, until BLACK PEOPLE made enough noise and got him arrested, where was all this advocacy from white LBGT organizations for the dead black gay men? Nothing but cricket from white LBGT on Ed Buck.
Demonstrated false, unless you can produce a list of all-white LGBTQ organizations and then show that they were not among the forty one LGBTQ organizations calling for Ed Buck to be arrested after the second killing.
Quote:Now you did ask me about lbgt advocates and my question to you (which you never answered btw) was where were these white lbgt advocates when a white lbgt was essentially getting away with murduing two gay black men? They never said one word about Ed Buck,yet they have all the smoke for Dave Chappelle. Miss me with that.
Demonstrated false. Forty one LGBTQ organizations, safe to assume containing at least some white members, demanded justice after the second killing.
Quote:It took a second victim and BLACK CIVIL RIGHTS ORGANIZATIONS, which included gay black people, but not one white LBGT organization was involve in bringing Ed Buck to justice. Again, GLAAD, and other LBGT advocacy groups has all this smoke for Dave Chapelle, but couldn't seem to utter a peep against Ed Buck, while he continued to drug and abuse Gay black men.
Again, unless you can demonstrate these all-white LGBTQ organizations and show they weren’t among the forty one LGBTQ groups demanding an arrest, then this claim has been shown to be patently, absurdly false.
Now, the question I have for you @Huggy Bear is, will you take a moment to accept that you did not have the pertinent facts to form a complete picture of this topic, and reconsider your position going forward? Or are you just going to double down and barrel forward with inane, and irrelevant semantics because you can’t handle the thought that you were wrong about something?
The genuinely heartbreaking take-away from this conversation is that broadly speaking, you’re not even wrong in believing that the reason it took so long for this man to be charged was, at least in part, because his victims were sex workers who belonged to marginalized groups. We know that law enforcement doesn’t prioritize these types of cases, and we know that marginalized victims don’t get the same media attention as white, straight, cis people. The Gabby Petito case is a perfect example of that. But for whatever reason, instead of seeing the LGBTQ community as an ally to the BPOC community, you believe they’re aggressors out to hurt you. Ironically, if it hadn’t been for the resounding voice of the forty one plus (you should really read that article) LGBTQ organizations in concert with the Black Civil Rights organizations crying out for justice in this case, Ed Buck might still be free somewhere, killing gay black men. But somewhere along the line you learned to hate the people who are on your side.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.
Wiser words were never spoken.