Why are transgender people more likely to commit suicide?

[Rev. Rye]

Frankly, the fact that you took until the second page of this thread to play the "suicide is unknowable" card, and dismissed the arguments that trans people are more likely to commit suicide because of discrimination points fairly strongly towards you thinking that trans people are naturally prone to mental illness or something in ways that can't be fixed by society becoming more tolerant.

Something tells me that if you really approached this with the mindset that suicide is unknowable, you'd have approached your OP like that (pointing out the inherent flaws in surveys) instead of wondering "Is a trans person more likely to commit suicide, or is a suicidal person more likely to change gender?" And even if you didn't set out to make it a question of nature vs. nurture, when Porcupine pointed out that the evidence, especially in the link you cited, points strongly towards nurture, you dismissed it. And when others joined in and pointed out how questionable your dismissal was, then and only then did you change tactics and ask "who can say why people kill themselves? It's such a personal affair."

You might be able to argue that the question in the OP was about something other than the nature-nurture debate over trans suicide, but something tells me you'd at least have tried to explain yourself and try to steer the discussion back on track. And after all that, I can only assume that when you bring up the topic, ask questions, and then suddenly say that you don't think those questions can be answered when we try to do so, I don't think you're being truly candid with us about what you really think.