(September 24, 2020 at 6:34 pm)Sal Wrote: @FlatAssembler, I'm gonna be blunt: Your assumption seems to rest on the notion of repeatability of experiments, prediction, and natural science models as per scientific methods, right?It's hard to predict the turbulent movement because of the huge number of unknown initial variables and complex mathematics involved in it. However, predicting with physical and chemical certainty how a human being will behave is even harder. And predicting how a group of people will behave, which is what social sciences try to do, is impossible with any certainty.
We don't have a complete picture of our natural world, and us in it. The best we can do is try to explain our surroundings to the best of our ability. As it stands now, not even mathematics is complete, and it probably never can be (as per Gödel's Incompleteness Theorems). The points is, inarguably, that our ability to reach understanding - on a fundamental level - is incomplete. We might not ever be able to, we don't know.
This point is demonstrable easy to show: In physics and engineering, there are 2 "formulas" for describing fluid motion; turbulent and laminar. It's easy to predict how laminar flow will go, by its smooth motion in a system, and AFAIK impossible for turbulent (from what we understand of it). This isn't a particular esoteric problem for engineers, they just stick to systems where they maintain laminar flow. However, this is like a wall of comprehension for theorists in physics.
I think this challenge for understanding whatever reality is, isn't exactly disheartening - just means there's more stuff to explore.
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