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A Case for Inherent Morality
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RE: A Case for Inherent Morality
(June 20, 2021 at 8:59 pm)JohnJubinsky Wrote:
(June 20, 2021 at 8:29 pm)brewer Wrote: Natural selection and evolution are well founded and I certainly accept them, but not a genetic code for morals, not without evidence.

I reread the OP, you use 'I believe' seven times and only provide justifications for the beliefs. I'm stating that your beliefs and justifications are not convincing.

In one of your posts you said that you read some psyc studies claiming infants/toddlers demonstrated the ability to recognize good and bad actions. I remember something about that too. It is suggestive that the infants had an inborn sense of right and wrong.

It could also suggest that by the age of 6 months (I think that was the earliest age) they could have acquired the ability to differentiate, and desire, nurturing behavior over non nurturing learned their parents. I see that others have addressed this. And then it could be a choice to select the least threatening behavior for self preservation and pain avoidance. The problem is that the babies can't communicate why they made their decision.

As side note: I've looked for monozygotic (identical-same DNA) twin studies where the twins are separated at birth and raised in different environments. I could not find any that addressed morals. What I did find were M twin studies looking at criminal or personality disordered behavior in later life. They found no statistically significant causal genetic link (eg. same DNA, both became criminals/disordered). This points back to environment.

I know it would be nice if humans were hard wired to be good, but I can't hang my hat on nice.
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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A Case for Inherent Morality - by JohnJubinsky - June 19, 2021 at 4:33 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by The Grand Nudger - June 19, 2021 at 4:45 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 19, 2021 at 5:13 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by JohnJubinsky - June 19, 2021 at 6:20 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by Belacqua - June 19, 2021 at 7:18 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by JohnJubinsky - June 19, 2021 at 7:58 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by Belacqua - June 19, 2021 at 8:47 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by JohnJubinsky - June 20, 2021 at 5:48 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 20, 2021 at 6:04 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by Belacqua - June 20, 2021 at 6:28 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by JohnJubinsky - June 20, 2021 at 7:46 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by Belacqua - June 20, 2021 at 7:55 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by JohnJubinsky - June 20, 2021 at 8:02 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 20, 2021 at 8:11 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by Belacqua - June 20, 2021 at 8:31 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by brewer - June 20, 2021 at 8:08 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by JohnJubinsky - June 20, 2021 at 8:22 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by brewer - June 20, 2021 at 8:29 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by JohnJubinsky - June 20, 2021 at 8:59 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by Belacqua - June 20, 2021 at 9:27 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by arewethereyet - June 20, 2021 at 10:06 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by Belacqua - June 20, 2021 at 10:35 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by arewethereyet - June 20, 2021 at 10:55 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by JohnJubinsky - June 20, 2021 at 11:10 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by arewethereyet - June 20, 2021 at 11:12 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by Belacqua - June 20, 2021 at 11:14 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by JohnJubinsky - June 21, 2021 at 1:57 am
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by Belacqua - June 21, 2021 at 3:19 am
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by John 6IX Breezy - June 21, 2021 at 3:51 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by JohnJubinsky - June 21, 2021 at 5:21 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by Belacqua - June 21, 2021 at 5:54 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by John 6IX Breezy - June 21, 2021 at 6:27 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by Belacqua - June 21, 2021 at 7:22 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by John 6IX Breezy - June 22, 2021 at 1:11 am
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by Belacqua - June 22, 2021 at 2:14 am
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by John 6IX Breezy - June 22, 2021 at 10:35 am
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by brewer - June 21, 2021 at 7:51 am
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by JohnJubinsky - June 21, 2021 at 2:55 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by brewer - June 21, 2021 at 3:41 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by JohnJubinsky - June 21, 2021 at 4:21 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by brewer - June 21, 2021 at 4:46 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by brewer - June 20, 2021 at 10:53 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by Angrboda - June 21, 2021 at 10:09 am
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by brewer - June 21, 2021 at 11:48 am
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by Angrboda - June 21, 2021 at 11:59 am
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by brewer - June 21, 2021 at 12:36 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by brewer - June 20, 2021 at 7:01 am
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by JohnJubinsky - June 20, 2021 at 11:10 am
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by brewer - June 20, 2021 at 11:46 am
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 20, 2021 at 12:10 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 19, 2021 at 7:20 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by brewer - June 19, 2021 at 7:02 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by Ranjr - June 19, 2021 at 7:28 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 19, 2021 at 7:33 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by Ranjr - June 19, 2021 at 7:55 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by vulcanlogician - June 19, 2021 at 8:20 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by Angrboda - June 19, 2021 at 9:39 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by vulcanlogician - June 19, 2021 at 9:46 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by Astreja - June 20, 2021 at 2:25 am
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by Peebo-Thuhlu - June 20, 2021 at 3:47 am
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by arewethereyet - June 20, 2021 at 8:34 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by The Grand Nudger - June 21, 2021 at 9:24 am
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by Mister Agenda - June 21, 2021 at 12:32 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by The Grand Nudger - June 21, 2021 at 2:05 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by The Grand Nudger - June 21, 2021 at 4:33 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by The Grand Nudger - June 21, 2021 at 10:28 pm
RE: A Case for Inherent Morality - by The Grand Nudger - June 22, 2021 at 2:18 am

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