The 500 & Common Sense.

[Drich]

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 if life was indeed a form of SIM theory like were are all just apart of a holodeck/matrix recreation of reality (A brain in a vat being fed electrical inputs to make it think it is part of a broader world, or a body tied into a matrix of sorts, or simple AI's who have to die in this world to wake up in reality.. (which is kinda what the bible describes creation is/God to be)

If this is the case then what does it matter if our avatars exposed to in game suffering? ever play a video game? ever trivially kill a sprite/guy just to see what would happen? meaning if we are plugged into the matrix or if we are brains in vats or more biblically correct spiritual beings coexisting in a physical body what does it matter if the avatar is exposed to the dangers of the game so long as the gamer/spirit can not be hurt?

why would God devote a huge amount of energy preserving and protecting what amounts to a digital form designed to live but a few brief moments and then die?

God is concerned about the long Game the Spiritual being (the player in the real world/not mario on the screen) and it's place in the rest of eternity/real world not this sim. meaning if it means mario has to die by having the power turned off early or the game level become so increasing difficult, that the gamer gives up on the game/sim so that in real life he gets up and goes outside to play.. then it is not good that mario (in game had a hard/difficult life?)


So why should god care about, what you as a sim cares about, to the degree you care about it, if his goal is to get you take your turn to play the game and then move on to the rest of your life???

 when in a few moments you will wake up from this simulation and nothing that mattered to you in the sim will matter in the real/heaven world.

You might have more trouble selling those one on one tickets if you describe a god no one wants anything to do with.  What I see is a man who values his own life and his own connections in it very little, and considers the value of others even less.  It's not surprising to me that you float the kind of god that you do.
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again using modern terms this is a sim world. why would god invest deeply into your minecraft game taking away all obstacles and giving you unlimited resources and freedom, when his ultimate goal is to get you to put down your simulated world/life and go outside into the real world and play?

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And Jesus answered them, “Truly, I say to you, if you have faith and do not doubt, you will not only do what has been done to the fig tree, but even if you say to this mountain, 'Be taken up and thrown into the sea,' it will happen.” (Matthew 21:21)

“Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.” (Mark 11:24)

 oh, wait he's talking faith and doubt.. meaning if you have a mustard seed's (tiny seed) worth of faith you can take a mountain (massive immovable object) of doubt and cast it into the sea... it's called an analogy might wanna look it up. ( not what you think... nothing to do with butts) it in fact explains why jesus can say the word mountain and not actually mean a massive rock formation that exceeds 2000ft.

“If you ask me anything in my name, I will do it.” (John 14:14)

to ask in his name is to ask for the things he wants for you. if you ask in your father's name your asking on behalf of your father. so you can not ask on behalf of your father something he would not want. This is how honest people with integrity understand asking in my name means. yes you can argue this but it will cost you any integrity you have.

“And whatever you ask in prayer, you will receive, if you have faith.” (Matthew 21:22)

which is what i said.. it's just not everything an atheist understand to be a prayer is indeed a prayer. Example (anything that starts with dear lord and ends in jesus name.) that again does not follow the only example of a christian prayer we have. so like i said Jesus will answer any prayer once you learn what a prayer is and how to pray.

> The faith of a child is pure.

but the mind of a child is often stupid.example:

I recall praying to God in earnest many times in my youth, but God seemed deaf to my entreaties. When I asked my teachers for answers, like Drich, all they did was make excuses. They had an extensive repertoire of excuses:

i have no doubt what you prayed was in earnest and as pure as the driven snow. but what if you were not ready for the things you were asking for? or better yet what if God answered your prayers and you as a child simply did not understand?

"You didn't pray hard enough."

realistically you probably never learned to pray.
i'm sure you were steeped with religious chants, but this is not prayer. pray God's way and hang on to something. your whole life will turn upside down.

"Your faith was insufficient."

that's bs as all you need is the faith of a mustard seed. just need to offer it to the god of the bible not to whatever religious deity you were filtering your faith through

"You're misinterpreting the Bible passages."

i can a test most of you do. but you don't have to know the bible to know God. Once you know God he will teach you.

"You were being too selfish."

god does not honor the selfish.

"God is testing you."

right now the only test is will you put a mustard seed's worth of faith into finding and seeking out the God of the bible?

"God has a divine plan, and in His divine wisdom He isn't going to change His plan just for you."

I kinda said the same thing when i demonstrated that your idea of prayer isn't prayer. in that our prayers are to aling with what God wants for us. they are not bargaining positions or opportunities to change God's will.

"God suffered for you. Maybe it's your turn to suffer for Him."

not till you first belong to God.
if you suffer now before knowing God then that suffering is in vain.

"Not all prayers are answered right away. You're too young to understand these things."

most kids are stupid who grow up to be stupid unless they seek out God's wisdom. if you haven't sought out God's wisdom then nothing has changed.

"In the grand scheme of things, perhaps your prayers are not important enough to require God's attention. Trust in His wisdom."

again probably never said a proper prayer in your life if in the grand scheme your prayers are different than God's direction

Never would they admit that, maybe God didn't give a shit, or maybe there was never any God listening to those prayers to begin with. 

again, if God wants xyz for you and you want 123, why would he do anything for you till you learned to also want xyz? who are you to force God to change his will?

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it's called prayer. once you learn to properly pray, you will find God answers all prayer. but again first you have to understand what prayer is.

Umm...

So, Islam and Catholicism don't offer prayer? Are Muslims all just OCD about needing to flatten rugs in a specific direction five times a day and the infidels just decided it was actually prayer?

not where God is to respond. to a common person no.

In bible based Christianity prayer is a invitation to have one on one time with God. any common person has this ability. no priests, popes emissaries, or prophets, no denomination nor church, saint, or spirit animal needed. just you and God through the faith one has represented of a mustard seed, and a mountain of doubt can be cast into the ocean... kinda makes it hard to question the bible or ask for proof if God is known to you directly..