(August 5, 2021 at 4:56 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:(August 5, 2021 at 4:17 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: For someone engaged in rationalizing a strong impulse, I would think saying "from God" and "from my innermost being" are functionally equivalent. They would do what they would do anyway, for any reason that sounded convincing. On the otherhand, for someone trying to make sense of uncanny and ineffable experiences, which is where I often find myself, I am not convinced that such a distinction matters - why wouldn't the voice of my innermost being seem in some sense divine and if God exists it seems right and proper that he would speak to me from my innermost being instead trying to reach me through the same perceptual path SKY News uses.
Unlike many atheists, I think there is some value in using symbols and concepts to bring one's inner life into order or create meaning. Even symbols like God or Christ. I feel like meditating on such symbols can bring benefit
But (as an atheist) I'm reminded that a plethora of symbols and concepts can achieve this end. Theravada Buddhists use "emptiness" and it gets the job done. It doesn't have to be Jesus. It can be wholly mundane.
What concerns me is the baggage that often accompanies these symbols. But in the final analysis, a reasonable person who reflects on things and approaches mysticism carefully, can avoid these pitfalls.
I really liked Belequa's perspective on mysticism. I've often wondered if atheism is antipodal to mysticism. I think maybe not. In any case, it's an interesting thing to consider.
The so-called negative way to the mystical fits nicely with a skeptical mindset. While in a mindful state I notice all the ways god seems to be absent. Sometimes the outline of that negative space, the boundry around where god should be but isn't has the counter-intuitive effect of filling me with an intimate sense of God's presence. Perhaps divine hiddeness is not a bug but rather a feature of any relationship between the finite and the infinite. YMMV
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