RE: Benevolent Creator God?
August 7, 2021 at 2:32 pm
(This post was last modified: August 7, 2021 at 2:32 pm by LadyForCamus.)
(August 7, 2021 at 2:08 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:(August 7, 2021 at 1:54 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: No, no, no, no, fucking no. You make the claim of divine revelation. In the absence of any evidence to support the notion that such a thing is even possible, let alone probable as a candidate explanation for the experience, we are left to make a rational assessment based on what we already know of reality. We know that the brain can produce experiences that don’t comport with the external world. We have mountains of evidence demonstrating that fact. So much evidence, in fact, that we can predict and even induce these experiences under certain manufactured conditions. We have zero evidence of divine revelation. What other choice is the rational skeptic left with other than to err on the side of what appears to be the most likely explanation based on the available evidence? Stop trying to shift the burden of proof. Your inability to make a properly evidenced case for your claim is no one’s failure but your own.
Are you answering yourself? The charge of delusion is far more than that of the absence of evidence. Procracas took the liberty above of accusing people who lived centuries ago of being charlatans/ delusional. Who has the burden of proof, you think ?
I’m certain Poca can support that claim. We have far more evidence for liars and delusional individuals than we have for any god, as I stated above. Confidence and certainty aren’t synonymous. I feel like you should be able to grasp that distinction.
Quote:Nothing the brain produces comports with the external world, if you actually read what you answer to, you would've noticed when I mentioned the very important observation that everyone is wrong about the external world
And some people are demonstrably more wrong than others.
Quote:And even if we fully accept that the claims of prophecy are a manifestation of some altered state of the brain, so what? Everything anyone experiences is a manifestation of some state of the brain, prophets or not, it could just be that God's message is a bit too heavy for our consciousness, that the recipients of his message had to receive it subconsciously.
Sure, it could be. But in the absence of any evidence, or even a reliable method to make such a distinction, you have no good reason to believe that it is, and a well-evidenced reason to seriously doubt that it is. Yet you jump on wagon number one every single time.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.
Wiser words were never spoken.