RE: Benevolent Creator God?
August 7, 2021 at 2:53 pm
(This post was last modified: August 7, 2021 at 3:25 pm by LadyForCamus.)
(August 7, 2021 at 2:30 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:(August 7, 2021 at 2:16 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I’ll make it as simple as possible for you, @Klorophyll :
Theist: I had experience X.
Skeptic: Oh, cool.
Theist: It was god talking to me.
Skeptic: How do you know that? How did you rule out natural causes?
Theist: I can’t rule out natural causes.
Skeptic: Do you have any evidence that it was a god?
Theist: No.
Skeptic: Then I’m not convinced the cause was a god.
Explain to me how my reasoning is flawed and yours is sound.
Fair enough, let me explain it to you : All experiences come from God, a deity being the source of all things. The most insane delusion of a mental patient also comes from God. The particular religious experiences we're talking only differ from the rest of experiences by their content. The revelations of prophets have material that is so culturally impressive as to be considered to be a message from God. Each individual perceive these religious experiences differently, accepting or dismissing them is the very divine test all religions are about.
So, you reached a moment in your thinking where you’ve realized that you can’t make an evidence-based distinction between a natural cause and a supernatural cause. Great! Bravo. I commend you.
Except that rather than appropriately adjust your confidence level in your belief to match what you’ve just realized, which would be the rational thing to do, you’ve instead decided to grasp at a fallacy and conflate the two causes so that you don’t have to make that distinction in the first place. You were so close, man, lol. Stop trying to shirk your responsibilities. If all experiences are from God, then what is the difference between natural and supernatural? Which one is god?
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.
Wiser words were never spoken.