RE: Benevolent Creator God?
August 7, 2021 at 3:32 pm
(This post was last modified: August 7, 2021 at 3:32 pm by R00tKiT.)
(August 7, 2021 at 3:13 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: It's extremely difficult to expose charlatans. It took 20th century technology that tapped into earpiece conversations to truly expose the depths of depravity in those claiming special endowments from God.
I'm somewhat sympathetic to mystics. (Read Neo and I's convo). I think that, sometimes, it can be reasonable for a person to accept their own mystical experience as true. But only true for themselves. They ought not inflict it on others or expect others to accept it as true. It's asinine to do that. And if you did that, you'd have to accept thousands of visions of Vishnu and Shiva that Hindus have had.
Camus has stated clearly the atheists argument for not accepting another person's mystical experience as true. I can't say it any better than she did.
Can you give more concrete examples of the charlatans you're referring to above ?
Charlatans in general are not expected to endure anything life-threatening caused by their claims, they're not prepared to give up their wealth, family members, etc. for their cause, which is something we know Muhmmad did since the onset of his prophetic career. This has no bearing of course on the truth of the claim, but at least it renders charlatanry very unlilkely.
You reference to he visions of Vishnu are not relevant here. We are capable, after all, of dismissing trivially wrong claims of divinity. Polytheism is inherently illogical. Monotheism seems logical and possibly unfalsifiable. But I don't know if unfalsifiable implies false. The criterion of falsifiability only applies to scientific theories about the observable universe, not to some metaphysical belief system.