RE: Benevolent Creator God?
August 14, 2021 at 10:56 pm
(This post was last modified: August 14, 2021 at 11:02 pm by Astreja.)
(August 12, 2021 at 1:36 pm)Astreja Wrote: I'm prepared to take that risk, as I consider the possibility itself to be infinitesimal.
(August 13, 2021 at 3:54 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: Is this again your personal opinion, or do you have some objective way to assign probabilities to religious beliefs ???
Yes. (As to which one is the "yes," pick whichever one you like.)
(August 12, 2021 at 1:36 pm)Astreja Wrote: The problem with that: Infinite punishment for acts committed in a finite lifetime is infinitely evil, and a god that would behave in such a manner is simply not to be trusted.
(August 13, 2021 at 3:54 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: Completely false. The length of a commited act is disproportionate to the length of punishment. Murdering someone can take less than a few seconds, the punishment can be a life sentence, etc.
We're still dealing in finite actions and finite sentences in the case of murder.
I will not yield on this point: I consider eternal punishment to be the quintessence of pure evil, and I will not worship any deity that allows such a place as hell to exist and that refuses to liberate sentient beings from hell. In my opinion, it is the ultimate deal-breaker.
(August 12, 2021 at 1:36 pm)Astreja Wrote: I've already deduced that religion is not for me, and I went through my ontological phase many decades ago. Waste of my time to reopen issues that are already resolved to my satisfaction.
(August 13, 2021 at 3:54 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: Why did you rule out all the religious claims that you didn't bother to check? Unless you have some very good reason for dismissing each, your position is dishonest.
And how do you know which ones I checked and didn't check? Name them.
So far, every religious claim that I've examined has failed the believability test. Every single one. If the same thing keeps happening, why should I waste any more time on it? I have more important things to do.
(August 14, 2021 at 1:11 pm)Mercyvessel Wrote: Pride comes before a fall..." - so it is expedient for one to humble oneself under the mighty hand of GOD - that He may mercifully teach and guide.
What a fucking drama queen you worship, Mercyvessel. Truly powerful beings don't need to make lesser beings grovel -- they should be pleased to encounter people who have ambition.