(August 20, 2021 at 4:13 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:“All people would believe”?(August 20, 2021 at 3:53 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Some people would tell you that a thing asserted to have absolutely no detectable effect, is a thing which doesn't do anything in this world.
A deity in itself is not detectable, this much is absolutely indisputable. But.. no detectable effects?
Let's take a row of thousands of dominoes in a really big room, X pushes the first domino and leaves the room. Dominoes just keep falling for hours, and investigator A enters the room some time after X left. Investigator A only observes the process unfold. Now, it's clear that it's impossible for A to detect X, but he can observe the effect of X and, through this effect -and a deductive argument, conclude that X very likely exists, somebody must have initiated the whole thing.
(August 20, 2021 at 3:54 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: @Klorophyll
Here’s a thought for you to chew on. Rather than drive yourself crazy trying to figure out why atheists aren’t aren’t convinced by the things you point to as evidence for your god, perhaps you should ask yourself why you are convinced by those things, and if you should be.
For me, God's existence is self-evident. All people would believe if some didn't think evolution/modern science somewhat dispense with the existence of God,
Go ahead and show that. I’ll wait.
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