RE: Covid 19 conspiracies dump
January 12, 2022 at 9:20 pm
(This post was last modified: January 12, 2022 at 9:41 pm by Irreligious Atheist.)
(January 12, 2022 at 10:33 am)polymath257 Wrote: The fact that we have had a massive trial of millions of people over the last year shows the safety and efficacy of the vaccines. At this point, if you are unvaxed, you are the control group. And the control group isn't doing so well.
The fact that the vast majority of people in the ER with covid are unvaxed shows that not getting the vaccines is far more dangerous than this disease.
NO medical treatment is 100% safe and effective for everyone. To expect 100% is simply being unreasonable.
But, we can establish that the danger of the vaccine is far, far less than the danger of the disease.
The spread of misinformation about covid and the vaccines is rampant and is killing people.
Comparing a purveyor of such misinformation with Copernicus is absurd in the highest degree.it shows a complete lack of understanding of the history of astronomy as well as the history of the current pandemic.
Millions of people have taken the vaccines and their have been a shitload of potential adverse health effects after taking the vaccines. Look at VAERS and the huge spike in reported potential adverse health effects after taking the vaccines. You are completely ignoring this and being anti-science. These things need to be looked into. Why is the establishment resisting this, pray tell? The default position by the mainstream is that we have to assume that these adverse health effects were just coincidental. You can not say they are just all coincidental when you haven't done further study into this.
You are strawmanning me and I never posted that I expect vaccines to be 100 percent safe. Read before you post, please. How are you just going to jump into a discussion without reading what's been posted in the argument? Quit being lazy and actually read and try to understand the argument the other side is making. I decided it was safe enough for me to take, and I literally said the vaccines are reasonably safe, but I think it would be extremely immoral for me to make that risk assessment and decision for other adults, as the government seems to want to do.
You don't seem to understand the Copernicus point either. Right over your head. Quit being so emotional and actually read the other persons' argument. You have taken the blue pill and you have put your complete trust in the government and governmental agencies. I, on the other hand, took the red pill more than a decade ago, and I see that the NHS and WHO and etc are all corrupt to the core. I don't blindly trust like you do. I'm not religious like you are. You worship the government and the priest class like people did back in the days of Copernicus. You see these scientists speaking up today as heathens like you, someone who worships the priest class, would have seen Copernicus back in the day. You would have wanted him silenced for offending the state and for thinking outside of the box. He certainly was not in line with scientific consensus. You say there is scientific consensus about the vaccines, but scientific consensus in a developing situation means a lot less than scientific consensus in hindsight, obviously, and scientific consensus has been wrong over and over throughout history. That's how science advances.
This video below beautifully explains how you are just like those who called for the punishment of Galileo. I have a deep appreciation and love for the scientific method, while you worship governmental agencies. You should be ashamed, placing your worship of the priest class above the scientific method. Please watch this video and educate yourself, and quit with the strawmanning.
(January 12, 2022 at 11:14 am)Ranjr Wrote: U.S. Sen. Rand Paul driving violent threats against me, Fauci says
"There you go again, you just do the same thing every hearing," Fauci told the senator, accusing him of making personal attacks that had no relation to reality. '
"He's doing this for political reasons," Fauci continued, pointing to fundraising appeals on Paul's website next to a call to have Fauci fired.
"What happens when he (Paul) gets out and accuses me of things that are completely untrue is that all of a sudden, that kindles the crazies out there and I have ... threats upon my life, harassment of my family and my children," Fauci said.
And Fauci lied to congress once again, this time about his emails. And Fauci is pathetically placing blame for the consequences of his own actions onto Senator Paul, who has asked him mostly legitimate questions. Pathetic that Fauci would pull the death threats card like this, right after lying about his emails and refusing to take responsibility for any of his actions. Fauci has been behaving disgracefully. And not long ago, he called for a news personality to be "fired on the spot" for telling people to ask Fauci questions if they see him in person. Not surprised to find out that Dr. Fauci is not a supporter of freedom of the press and wants to take a man's job away because he said something unkind about him.
