(October 12, 2021 at 11:57 am)Sponge bob Wrote:(October 12, 2021 at 9:39 am)Ahriman Wrote: My dreams are too vivid, detailed, and realistic (even down to an emotional level), to be bullshit.
Most people experience dreams and often very detailed and intense. Any one of us could claim precisely the same thing as you do and there is absolutely no objective way to compare the detail or intensity of one person's dreams to another's. So you can't seriously use this as evidence to support such arguments as your beliefs in god are true or "right". Dreams have been considered somewhat religious in nature for most of recorded history, but there is zero objective evidence to support this. I don't dispute that they are related to religion because I also see dreams as connected to our imagination and I fully believe that our imagination is strongly connected to religion.
This conversation is about quantitative vs qualitative values.
The problem with the word detail is the same as the problem with the words:
1. small and big
2. short and tall
3. old and new and ancient
4. near and far
5. ugly and beautiful.
6. and others.
The dictionary does not define precisely where the threshold is. These are relative words. They are subjective words.
Guy 1: “Is your planet 4.56 billion y old? Wow, that is a very young planet!”
Guy 2: “4.56 billion y old? Wow, that is ancient!”
At least we have a means for measuring length, time, temperature.
There is no machine to measure the intensity and detailness of a dream.
Someone needs to invent the Dream-o-meter. You can connect it to someone’s brain and it shows numbers like 50.174 kiloflargs.
If you the number is above 50.000 kiloflargs, this means the dream is intense.
I agree. A dream can be related to a religion. It can also be related to your hobby, your friends, your car, your job.
I imagine that if someone thinks about Jesus a lot, they end up dreaming about him.
There are lots of examples in the Bible. They call it a “vision”.
