Can America ever truly pay for its sins?

[WinterHold]

All well and good, but that doesn't seem to be the case with the us -at present-.  Remember, the current political dispute in the us is between the dying minority cohort that sees no evil and the younger and living and majority cohort that both sees evil, and knows how we might do better.  Dont get me wrong, better..in that context, can still be pretty shitty for someone.

Does it ever occur to you, winter, that the people you address here, for example.... have all the same reservations about their grandfathers as you might?  Here's another fun question to ponder.  Do you think I hauled a rifle all over nothereistan for america..or for the people of nothereistan?  It  wasnt exactly like the islamist in front of me had a weapon that could reach all the way back to bell florida.......they werent killing americans.....

I guess it;s a complicated thing.  As a country, we've been on both sides of a given conflict (moral or military..if there's a difference).  Our own conflict, today, seems to amount to whether or not we want to be guided by the better angels of our nature, or our most base and absurd insecurities.  Weird thing for a country like us to feel insecure, don't you think?  We're so goddamned mighty we toppled your kingdom of god in less than a generation.  Guys got his work cut out for him dealing with us whether he has to deal with the bigots, or the rest of us.  We're iron chariot types...and I suppose he's always struggled with us.

I will name the ruling parties of America with another fashion:

1) The Military Industrial Complex (Biden,Obama,Hillary...etc)
2) The Oligarchs (Remnants of Trump era, extreme Zionists...etc)

I will assume that you meant the MIC to be the "old", the Oligarchs to be the "young".

The problem is: both groups are sinning more than the rest ! at first, I thought that Biden's MIC changed its ways, but it didn't, it's still supporting MBS, still supporting Israel.

The Oligarchs on the other hand are building their power in the dark for 2024 elections, and I think they will rain havoc this time and put an end to the MIC, or start a civil war in the U.S, the flames of that war will soon turn global, I don't even doubt it turns to a global war with Russia and China moving to the mixture.

You, along with millions of Americans helped both the MIC and the Oligarchs to wage war after war by enlisting in their armies.
Don't worry, I'm fair enough to blame the Muslims who followed ISIS and Al-Qaeda to keep the wheel of American war economy going. Arab countries governments' too. It's a planet of sinners.


Would Biden, Trump, Hilary, Bin Laden, dare to repent for all these lives they destroyed?