(June 14, 2011 at 7:34 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: It links Jesus with being eternal and uncreated, which is an attribute that only Yahweh possesses.
Chapter and verse on the exclusivity of what powers YHWH possesses. The OT is unclear as to whether or not Yahweh is the only god there is. Angels, demigods, and holy spirits could well be with us even unto the end of an age. Some of the early versions of Christianity had different ideas of what Jesus was and allowed for the idea that he could be either another deity or a demigod. And the verse says nothing about being uncreated. I give you credit for originally but no cigar. Try again?
Quote:Biblical scholars are constantly revising the order of books and when they were written. Some believe Mark is the oldest book, having been written before 53 A.D.- others discount this.It's true that apologists are constantly trying to move the date closer and closer to the time of the alleged Jesus but the relatively less sleazy ones will admit that 70 CE is the earliest since chapter 13 names the destruction of the temple.
Quote:Not sure where you get this information, but I feel Christianity’s ties to the Old Testament are far too complex and intriguing to just be mere fabrications in order to gain favor from the Romans.Bart Ehrman. And you can "feel" whatever you like but Christian ties to the OT are shaky at best. Matthew lies his ass off on all the supposed "fulfillment of prophecy" that Jesus is supposed to have made but cross-referencing his claims with the OT itself exposes the fraud.
Quote:Sorry, I don’t have the time to do research that you should have provided when you made the original assertion.
Read Bart Ehrman, Robert Price or any other non-apologist source on the actual history of Christianity. I don't have the time to give you the full dissertation.
Quote:Please stop calling it mythology, that’s nothing more than a question begging epithet and it’s rather annoying.
It's called "calling it what it is" and no apologies for my not tip-toeing around your beliefs that the Bible is anything more than mythology.
Quote:Does the Iliad claim to be true or divinely inspired? If so, I was not aware of this; either way though that is not the reason I do not believe its claims to be true.Yes, I know at some point Homer says "sing in me Muse" Let's see. *flip flip flip* It was somewhere in this story. Hmmmm *flip flip flip* Ah, here is is... THE FIRST SENTENCE OF THE STORY.
Inspired by Holy Spirit = claim to divine inspiration.
Inspired by Muse = claim to divine inspiration.
No special pleading please.
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
