(March 23, 2009 at 4:17 pm)Demonaura Wrote: Nonono, the important part to remember is specifically that they are NOT real. the theists can SAY whatever the hell they want, they're lying.
The whole point is that I'm SAYING the dice are real but, I'm lying too because in order to say these dice are real I have to redefine what is real, I have to strip down the definition of what is real so that the word has lost it's entire purpose. Because now the word real is being used to describe things that are NOT real, and have no value. Which is exactly how I know the dice are NOT real, because to say they are real I can't use the word real.
Sorry, but at the beginning of the post, you said there were three jars and one of them had transcendent dice in it. Now, in order to support your point, you say that it's all a lie, that there aren't really any transcendent dice, but that we have been lied to about them. In that case we have three jars, one has dice, and the other two are empty.
I don't believe in God anymore than you do (I think), but if you are going to say that God does not exist, or that it is a deception to believe that God exists, then you have to prove your point every bit as much as the Christian does.
