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The Burden of Proof
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RE: The Burden of Proof
(August 19, 2011 at 10:40 am)Welsh cake Wrote:
(August 19, 2011 at 3:00 am)padraic Wrote: No human idea is infallible.
Must...resist urge...to invoke...liar paradox. X[


(August 19, 2011 at 3:33 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Equally Anti religious claims shoulder the same burden. IOW : STFU Big Grin
No they don't. Read up on the philosophical burden of proof to appreciate that not all claims are equal; positive and negative ontological claims like for example Loch Ness Monster does exist or Loch Ness Monster does not exist, are asymmetrical. Whoever makes the positive claim has the greater burden of proof because he or she is seeking to add to our 'collective pool' of knowledge, while the refuter, who is merely arguing against the proposition, does not.
I'm pretty sure I demonstrated the burden of proof rests with the one making the claim in my original post. If he chooses to disagree, that is his option. Some people are so credulous that they hold on to religious dogma as if it were a rope in a tug of war. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. However if you just get yourself called reverend you can lead them to South America and if you add kool-aid and arsenic they will drink it by the gallon.
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The Burden of Proof - by Atheistfreethinker - August 19, 2011 at 12:58 am
RE: The Burden of Proof - by The Grand Nudger - August 19, 2011 at 1:10 am
RE: The Burden of Proof - by Atheistfreethinker - August 19, 2011 at 1:19 am
RE: The Burden of Proof - by orogenicman - August 19, 2011 at 10:06 am
RE: The Burden of Proof - by Minimalist - August 19, 2011 at 1:11 am
RE: The Burden of Proof - by Violet - August 19, 2011 at 1:13 am
RE: The Burden of Proof - by padraic - August 19, 2011 at 3:00 am
RE: The Burden of Proof - by Atheistfreethinker - August 19, 2011 at 3:27 am
RE: The Burden of Proof - by fr0d0 - August 19, 2011 at 3:33 am
RE: The Burden of Proof - by Violet - August 19, 2011 at 1:23 pm
RE: The Burden of Proof - by Faith No More - August 19, 2011 at 2:29 pm
RE: The Burden of Proof - by fr0d0 - August 20, 2011 at 2:16 pm
RE: The Burden of Proof - by Atheistfreethinker - August 20, 2011 at 3:01 pm
RE: The Burden of Proof - by The Grand Nudger - August 19, 2011 at 9:04 am
RE: The Burden of Proof - by Faith No More - August 19, 2011 at 9:12 am
RE: The Burden of Proof - by Napoléon - August 19, 2011 at 9:43 am
RE: The Burden of Proof - by The Grand Nudger - August 19, 2011 at 9:50 am
RE: The Burden of Proof - by Napoléon - August 19, 2011 at 1:35 pm
RE: The Burden of Proof - by The Grand Nudger - August 19, 2011 at 10:10 am
RE: The Burden of Proof - by orogenicman - August 19, 2011 at 12:40 pm
RE: The Burden of Proof - by Minimalist - August 19, 2011 at 5:08 pm
RE: The Burden of Proof - by padraic - August 19, 2011 at 9:37 pm
RE: The Burden of Proof - by Welsh cake - August 19, 2011 at 10:40 am
RE: The Burden of Proof - by Atheistfreethinker - August 19, 2011 at 11:09 am
RE: The Burden of Proof - by The Grand Nudger - August 19, 2011 at 1:40 pm
RE: The Burden of Proof - by Javaman - August 19, 2011 at 4:15 pm
RE: The Burden of Proof - by Violet - August 19, 2011 at 2:54 pm
RE: The Burden of Proof - by The Grand Nudger - August 19, 2011 at 5:18 pm
RE: The Burden of Proof - by Minimalist - August 19, 2011 at 9:54 pm
RE: The Burden of Proof - by The Grand Nudger - August 19, 2011 at 9:51 pm
RE: The Burden of Proof - by The Grand Nudger - August 19, 2011 at 9:58 pm
RE: The Burden of Proof - by Atheistfreethinker - August 19, 2011 at 11:12 pm
RE: The Burden of Proof - by Godnose - August 20, 2011 at 7:00 pm
RE: The Burden of Proof - by Atheistfreethinker - August 20, 2011 at 7:06 pm
RE: The Burden of Proof - by padraic - August 20, 2011 at 8:07 pm
RE: The Burden of Proof - by Atheistfreethinker - August 22, 2011 at 4:24 pm
RE: The Burden of Proof - by The Grand Nudger - August 20, 2011 at 8:38 pm
RE: The Burden of Proof - by fr0d0 - August 21, 2011 at 1:01 pm
RE: The Burden of Proof - by The Grand Nudger - August 21, 2011 at 1:15 pm
RE: The Burden of Proof - by fr0d0 - August 21, 2011 at 1:22 pm
RE: The Burden of Proof - by Napoléon - August 21, 2011 at 1:26 pm
RE: The Burden of Proof - by The Grand Nudger - August 21, 2011 at 1:26 pm
RE: The Burden of Proof - by padraic - August 23, 2011 at 2:14 am
RE: The Burden of Proof - by Atheistfreethinker - August 23, 2011 at 2:39 am
RE: The Burden of Proof - by Atheistfreethinker - August 24, 2011 at 7:35 am
RE: The Burden of Proof - by Jackalope - August 24, 2011 at 6:10 pm

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