[quote='Ace Otana' pid='201839' dateline='1320346053']
You missed the point. If we are just tiny insignificant specks then that is what we are. Feelings and desires mean fuck all. If you can't handle the fact that NOTHING suggests the cosmos was created for us then that's your problem. [/quote]
You missed my point, just because we are tiny specks does not prove we are insignificant. If the universe was created for us, then we are very significant.
[quote] Also it's a bit arrogant considering we don't yet know what else is out there. Perhaps there's an alien race that's important and not us. Perhaps the universe was created for them and not us. So why don't we just state that we are small and there is no reason to suggest we are significant. [/quote]
Well those are merely hypothetical scenarios, which do not really get us anywhere. Perhaps Christ will come back and we will all be shown to be truly significant, hypothetical scenarios can work both ways you know.
[quote]
Stating what we know now is not a religious belief of some kind. Otherwise anything we know now could be considered a religious belief. There is no reason or evidence to suggest that we're special or that all this was created for us. In fact just about everything can kill us.
/quote]
If we are the only life in the universe, which is what the current observed evidence suggests, then we are indeed special by definition right?
[quote='Cinjin' pid='201849' dateline='1320346853']
There is no deception Ace. His entire line of questioning is stupid and OBVIOUS baiting. He believes that only the people who endorse HIS god and HIS religion can have a purpose in life. See enjoying life is not a good enough purpose to him so therefore it is not an acceptable answer. You see, like all arguments with Statler, HE decides what's legitimate and what's allowed. HE decides whether or not you can even have a purpose without his god. You see, like Lucent, he is an arrogant SOB who will consider nothing but his own views as valid.
Besides, he can't allow you to have a purpose in life ... because that would serve to nullify his relationship with his god. [/quote]
How ironic considering you were the one who said life is all part of the process and essentially meaningless. Are you now changing your position and asserting life does have purpose and meaning?
[quote] ...and now directly at Statler:
This entire line of questioning is so pointless it seems to be obvious baiting. As they say in the ghetto ... "you need to chill out and check yoself"
[/quote]
Are you going to direct this to 5thHorseman considering this whole thread was started with questions that were obvious baiting? Every unbeliever on here wanted to see the Christians say that his nice grandma was going to hell. Apply your rules to everyone please, there is no special pleading allowed in these parts there Tex. I asked Ace those questions because he is a straight shooter and gives honest answers, notice I didn’t direct the question to you.
You missed the point. If we are just tiny insignificant specks then that is what we are. Feelings and desires mean fuck all. If you can't handle the fact that NOTHING suggests the cosmos was created for us then that's your problem. [/quote]
You missed my point, just because we are tiny specks does not prove we are insignificant. If the universe was created for us, then we are very significant.
[quote] Also it's a bit arrogant considering we don't yet know what else is out there. Perhaps there's an alien race that's important and not us. Perhaps the universe was created for them and not us. So why don't we just state that we are small and there is no reason to suggest we are significant. [/quote]
Well those are merely hypothetical scenarios, which do not really get us anywhere. Perhaps Christ will come back and we will all be shown to be truly significant, hypothetical scenarios can work both ways you know.
[quote]
Stating what we know now is not a religious belief of some kind. Otherwise anything we know now could be considered a religious belief. There is no reason or evidence to suggest that we're special or that all this was created for us. In fact just about everything can kill us.
/quote]
If we are the only life in the universe, which is what the current observed evidence suggests, then we are indeed special by definition right?
[quote='Cinjin' pid='201849' dateline='1320346853']
There is no deception Ace. His entire line of questioning is stupid and OBVIOUS baiting. He believes that only the people who endorse HIS god and HIS religion can have a purpose in life. See enjoying life is not a good enough purpose to him so therefore it is not an acceptable answer. You see, like all arguments with Statler, HE decides what's legitimate and what's allowed. HE decides whether or not you can even have a purpose without his god. You see, like Lucent, he is an arrogant SOB who will consider nothing but his own views as valid.
Besides, he can't allow you to have a purpose in life ... because that would serve to nullify his relationship with his god. [/quote]
How ironic considering you were the one who said life is all part of the process and essentially meaningless. Are you now changing your position and asserting life does have purpose and meaning?
[quote] ...and now directly at Statler:
This entire line of questioning is so pointless it seems to be obvious baiting. As they say in the ghetto ... "you need to chill out and check yoself"
[/quote]
Are you going to direct this to 5thHorseman considering this whole thread was started with questions that were obvious baiting? Every unbeliever on here wanted to see the Christians say that his nice grandma was going to hell. Apply your rules to everyone please, there is no special pleading allowed in these parts there Tex. I asked Ace those questions because he is a straight shooter and gives honest answers, notice I didn’t direct the question to you.
