The mystery of creation: solved.

[Edwardo Piet]

Perhaps you thought David Bryant was a great office manager too then Adrian? :p

Who?

Do you mean Brent or is this some kind of joke or pun of some kind? Or someone with a similar name??

Unless it's just a typo...looks like a hard one to pull off though!

[fr0d0]

Woops lol

[Kyuuketsuki]

Only the blind would think that Gervais was making a case for theism since he was quite obviously taking the piss out of it.

He takes the piss but it makes you wonder how f'in stupid you'd have to be to raise the questions he does. It's THAT obvious that erm.. dur - this really ISN'T what it's about people???

It's still very funny, and I laugh with him & not at him. His genius is that he can do that.

The point that you miss (and I suspect as disingenuously as ever) is that he DELIBERATELY says the stupid things because the bible says the stupid things ... he is HIGHLIGHTING the stupidity of the bible.

Kyu

[Giff]

To say it plain and simple, the bible is just a book that is full of myths and stories.

If you take as the aboslute truth then the book is just plain stupid. If you try to read it as a regular novel or something, then it just boring, unintresting and have one deimensional characters.

The moral the book want to teach is something that anyone could have come up with. It's quite obvious that you shouldn't kill someone, cheat on your wife, or the other ten commandments.

It's a pointless book, one of the most worst written. There are alot of books out there that do a better job in affecting people then the bible.

[Edwardo Piet]

Only the blind would think that Gervais was making a case for theism since he was quite obviously taking the piss out of it.

He takes the piss but it makes you wonder how f'in stupid you'd have to be to raise the questions he does. It's THAT obvious that erm.. dur - this really ISN'T what it's about people???

It's still very funny, and I laugh with him & not at him. His genius is that he can do that.

The point that you miss (and I suspect as disingenuously as ever) is that he DELIBERATELY says the stupid things because the bible says the stupid things ... he is HIGHLIGHTING the stupidity of the bible.

Kyu

He sure is! Kudos.

I bloody love his routine about the bible, hehe.

I think my favourite bit is when the snake gets punished by being forced to crawl on its belly from then on, lmao.

[fr0d0]

The point that you miss (and I suspect as disingenuously as ever) is that he DELIBERATELY says the stupid things because the bible says the stupid things ... he is HIGHLIGHTING the stupidity of the bible.

Kyu

And like I said, to say that brings out the ABSURDITY of viewing it like that. It's not THE BIBLE that's stupid, it's THE READER.

[Kyuuketsuki]

The point that you miss (and I suspect as disingenuously as ever) is that he DELIBERATELY says the stupid things because the bible says the stupid things ... he is HIGHLIGHTING the stupidity of the bible.

And like I said, to say that brings out the ABSURDITY of viewing it like that. It's not THE BIBLE that's stupid, it's THE READER.

No it's not, in today's technological society the bible is just an interesting fictional book of historical and cultural relevance but it is not, as Gervais was making humorously clear, fact and it is pathetic to treat it as so.

Kyu

[fr0d0]

Well DUR.. it's not fact huh? Shock horror, blow me down with a feather. I never realised. Thanks so much for pointing that out. I'll go write it down in my unmissable info book. Genius that Gervais huh?

[Kyuuketsuki]

Well DUR.. it's not fact huh? Shock horror, blow me down with a feather. I never realised. Thanks so much for pointing that out. I'll go write it down in my unmissable info book. Genius that Gervais huh?

Actually having given it some further thought as I was rushing at the time I would have to agree that the bible itself is not stupid (a book can't be in and of itself stupid).

The bible is a mixture of fierce, bloody battles, scores of twenty-generation-long, mind-numbing genealogies, some poetry and an indecipherable mixture of confused & poorly understood material. In the first half, the Old Testament, we are told how the world was and its denizens were created and ruled over by a jealous god who has more in common with what a given society (some 2000 years ago) might believe a god should be like, more of a supremely powerful tribal chieftain. In the New Testament that god's son (and, to confuse things, a third part of itself), Jesus, carries out a number of claimed "miracles" but it is my understanding that all such reports are second hand, that none of the authors actually saw any of the astonishing things personally. The bible contains many actions that one would not expect of a God who, it is claimed, loves us ... a God whose divine and absolute powers (even when working through others) would might reasonably expect to have resulted in a perfect book with no mistakes. If the bible was genuinely divinely inspired it should contain the perfect philosophy, it should perfectly accord with every fact in nature, there should be no mistakes in astronomy, geology or any subject in science. Its morality should be above reproach, its laws and regulations should be just, wise & perfect, it should be opposed to strife, war, slavery, lust, ignorance, credulity, superstition and, above all, it should be true. Simple examination of the bible reveals many flaws, absurdities, inconsistencies, unlikelihoods & vulgarities and, viewed as a whole, the Christian bible bears none of those characteristics.

Above that the bible is considered to be a moral guide for Christians around the world when those guidelines are questionable at best, atrocious at worst ... how many today would be willing to sacrifice their oldest sons to their god? Whilst the bible is an interesting and historically relevant book there is no valid evidence indicating divine inspiration or perfect or even that it's core message contains any real truth and as such it is a mystery why anyone would consider it to be evidence of any god let alone the key piece of evidence cited by most Christians.

On the plus side it does have animals that talk and in this respect is much reminiscent of the somewhat better written "Dr. Doolittle" adventures by Hugh Lofting.

So, back to my revised statement on the bible ... it's not specifically stupid but its contents are dubious depending on how they are read. If read literally they are obviously wrong as the bible is only an historical source and not a specific historical record. If read as entirely allegorical it makes some sense as an attempt to explain the beliefs and the universe of the time but if, as I suspect most modern Christians do, it is read part allegorical but with some specific truths or facts within it raises questions as to how one distinguishes which bits are true and which bits are not especially in light of the fact that many Christians have very different interpretations about what the bible is and what it means.

Kyu