YOU!

[Edwardo Piet]

Just on a side note, and I quite funny one I think , we all are arguing for either free will or no free will. Does that mean EvF didn't 'choose' to argue or hold his point of view, and that you chose freely? Or that I didn't have a choice to not believe in it? It's a strange idea methinks.

Indeed. Pretty obvious statement lol.

For a start - some people hallucinate! So there's evidence of the truth of that obvious aphorism right there!



EvF

[Samson]

Just on a side note, and I quite funny one I think , we all are arguing for either free will or no free will. Does that mean EvF didn't 'choose' to argue or hold his point of view, and that you chose freely? Or that I didn't have a choice to not believe in it? It's a strange idea methinks.

Indeed. Pretty obvious statement lol.

For a start - some people hallucinate! So there's evidence of the truth of that obvious aphorism right there!



EvF

"Them Hallucinating" might be due to some of that "Addictive Personality".........

[Darwinian]

"Free will is an illusion caused by our apparent ability to choose freely - which is not remote reason to believe that 'free will' is actually true because that's circular reasoning."

My modified version

(all the bolding is mine of course lol ).

EvF

Yours isn't as catchy or elegant as mine.. Truth is beauty and all that

[Edwardo Piet]

Truth is truth. Beauty is beauty.

And what I said I believe with good reason to probably be objective truth...whilst beauty is entirely subjective I believe (because I know of no evidence of objective beauty.)

You keep the catchy beauty then - I'll keep the less catchy truth (what I believe is the truth I mean - for reasons previously stated...)

I still maintain that my argument totally holds (because of the reasons in my argument itself)). I don't claim absolute knowledge. But I do claim to be right here until I get what I believe to be a decent argument back - that I believe contradicts or at least conflicts with mine.

EvF

[Darwinian]

Science has achieved some wonderful thing I know, but I'd far rather be happy than right any day.

Slartibarfast

[Edwardo Piet]

Seems like perhaps the opposite of the Carl Sagan quote I just put in my sig don't you think? lol

EvF

[Darwinian]

And then Arthur Dent says "And are you?"

"No" says Slartibartfast, "That's where it all falls down of course."

"Shame" says Arthur, "Seems like quite a good lifestyle otherwise."

[Edwardo Piet]

Ah...I've heard of that before. Maybe I read it here before I dunno lol! I have though.

EvF

[Darwinian]

Time to start reading h2g2...

[leo-rcc]

Indeed.