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[Minimalist]

Purely coincidentally, of course, about the same time the supposedly oldest DSS were scribbled.

You noticed that, huh?

[KichigaiNeko]

Oh, it isn't for that dickhead. It's for the sane people.

The proto-Canaanitic script was used by everyone in the region no matter what "language" (or perhaps dialect would be a better word) they spoke. Even though Russian and Greek use the Cyrillic alphabet you won't get too far if you try to read a Greek text in Russian.

Thanks Min...I had some information but nothing in detail.

[Rokcet Scientist]

Purely coincidentally, of course, about the same time the supposedly oldest DSS were scribbled.

You noticed that, huh?

Same time, same place, same subject matter. Suspiciously the same all around! So the logical conclusion is that it's one and the same thing.
Elementary, my dear Watson.
The DSS look very much a forgery. Not a forgery of documents, but a forgery of history, by whomever commissioned them. The documents are real, but what they say is a crock.

[Minimalist]

The stories existed though. We have fragments of the Greek version which was written a century earlier. I suspect what we are dealing with are oral traditions that Greek scholars wrote down. Recall that the "Jews" were put in place by the Persians who followed Zoroaster. There were no written scriptures in Zoroastrianism until the Sassanids commanded they be written out well over 7 centuries after Cyrus. Knowledge was reserved for the priests and their students.

The one thing that always troubled me about the minimalist idea that all this shit was written directly after the end of the so-called "exile" was that if it had been written by one hand it would have been better done. The duplications and contradictions we see are more indicative of someone scraping up various traditions and cobbling them together. Of course, oral tales are easily changed. Embellishment follows.

[chi pan]

i think this conversation has gone way off topic. the point is, the old testimate was not written in greek it was written in hebrew. it would be more accurate to look at the hebrew text than today's translations because all of today's translations were translated from those hebrew texts. we may not have the originals but the earliest written documents of the torah were written in hebrew because they were hebrew texts from judea, the jewish nation. therefore, i was right to get the true meaning of the verses from the original hebrew.

[Rokcet Scientist]

i think this conversation has gone way off topic. the point is, the old testimate was not written in greek it was written in hebrew. it would be more accurate to look at the hebrew text than today's translations because all of today's translations were translated from those hebrew texts. we may not have the originals but the earliest written documents of the torah were written in hebrew because they were hebrew texts from judea, the jewish nation. therefore, i was right to get the true meaning of the verses from the original hebrew.

You still haven't found that spell checker, have you?

BTW, were you incarcerated this week?

[Epimethean]

Point is, you can't even spell what you seem to want to refer to, let alone defend your thesis with reliable evidence, and now you are making further spurious claims after having your ass handed to you multiple times already. Give up.

[KichigaiNeko]

Yeah, I understand that the OT was made up around 600 bce

[Blam!]

i think this conversation has gone way off topic. the point is, the old testimate was not written in greek it was written in hebrew. it would be more accurate to look at the hebrew text than today's translations because all of today's translations were translated from those hebrew texts. we may not have the originals but the earliest written documents of the torah were written in hebrew because they were hebrew texts from judea, the jewish nation. therefore, i was right to get the true meaning of the verses from the original hebrew.

Are you implying there is very crucial mistranslations of the bible need to be examined, properly? Touché but the mistranslations of modern bible are somewhat similar to context of the meaning of Hebrew bible. Like the story of Adam and Eve.

Edited: fixed the quotes.

[Minimalist]

i think this conversation has gone way off topic. the point is, the old testimate was not written in greek it was written in hebrew.

You said that before and I am willing to bet my left testicle that you do not have one more page of evidence for that statement than you had before.

Try to get this through your thick skull. It is not really clear when "Hebrew" separated itself from all the other dialects of Canaan. The commons in Judah spoke Aramaic and were still speaking it when you think your hero, jesus the godboy, was walking around. There is not a shred of tangible evidence that any form of Judaism existed prior to the beginning of the Persian period.