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RE: The Trilemma
January 17, 2012 at 3:53 pm
(January 17, 2012 at 3:41 pm)Shell B Wrote: Faithnomore, they read funny. *wrinkles nose* That is all interpretation. He came right out and said a shitload of things. "I am god" is not one of them. That is all I can find too. Passages that say, "I'm like my dad." being interpreted as, "I am my dad."
And all these come from the Gospel of John, not the three Gospels written closer in time to the alleged events.
If you read the first three Gospels, you can't find anything to justify the assertion that Jesus was supposed to be God incarnate. Jesus and Yahweh speak to each other in 2nd person, of each other in 3rd person, Jesus claims to have no knowledge of what Yahweh knows (when the second coming will be), and Jesus submits to Yahweh's will (prayer at the Garden before his crucifixion).
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RE: The Trilemma
January 17, 2012 at 5:30 pm
In conclusion:
Here's the breakdown of the Trilemma:
1. Start with the desired conclusion
2. Assume Jesus really existed
3. Assume that we have infallible records of this person., his life and what he claimed
4. Speculate two alternatives: liar and lunatic
5. Strawman the hell out of those alternatives (reducto ad absurdum)
6. Arrive at desired conclusion
7. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWyCCJ6B2WE
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RE: The Trilemma
January 17, 2012 at 8:01 pm
The Extended Trilemma (or Quadrilemma):
JC: Liar, Lunatic, Lord or Lunch.
(Sorry; been toying with that for a few days and couldn't resist.)
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: The Trilemma
January 17, 2012 at 8:39 pm
(January 17, 2012 at 8:01 pm)Stimbo Wrote: The Extended Trilemma (or Quadrilemma):
JC: Liar, Lunatic, Lord or Lunch.
(Sorry; been toying with that for a few days and couldn't resist.)
That's when he appears on toast.
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... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
