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Play it safe
#51
RE: Play it safe
(March 15, 2012 at 2:22 pm)Saved Wrote: I was a very different person who loved wealth, fast cars, exotic holidays but now I am free from all that and can focus on worship and obedience Big Grin

Boring [Image: icon_yawn.gif]

You're actually going to spend your one and only existence hoping for another one? Meh, you're life.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan

Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.

Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.

You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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#52
RE: Play it safe
(March 15, 2012 at 2:22 pm)Saved Wrote: but now I am free from all that and can focus on worship and obedience Big Grin

Undecided
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#53
RE: Play it safe
(March 15, 2012 at 2:00 pm)Saved Wrote: We are all made by the ultimate man who's called Jesus. That's true.

Prove it.
(March 15, 2012 at 1:57 pm)Saved Wrote:
(March 15, 2012 at 1:54 pm)Xavier Wrote:
(March 15, 2012 at 4:26 am)Saved Wrote: Aren't you atheists frightened that you might be wrong and then when you die Jesus is going to be very angry with you for not being his friend and send you to hell for punishment, even if it isn't for ever?

Wouldn't it be better to accept Jesus as your friend and master even if you have trouble believing it because then you would have at least made an effort and tried and when you die he might not be so angry and look kindly on you because he does really love you after all?

Can you answer why athiests should believe in Jesus but not Odin, Zeus or any other deity?

Aern't you worried that you have been deceived and your god is not the true and real god?

Because Jesus is real and all the others are just man made stories.

They all say the same about your god. Why choose yours over theirs? Better yet- why don't you grow up, stop believing in fairy tales, and actually try to help the world. . .by LEARNING SCIENCE!
(March 15, 2012 at 2:06 pm)Saved Wrote:
(March 15, 2012 at 2:03 pm)Napoleon Wrote:
(March 15, 2012 at 2:00 pm)Saved Wrote: We are all made by the ultimate man who's called Jesus. That's true.

When are you going to get the message? Back up your claims with EVIDENCE.

Just sitting there and saying 'it's true! it's true!' isn't winning an argument is it?

All the proof you need has always been there in the holy scriptures. If you'd bothered to actually read it properly with love in your heart you would be agreeing with me.

God bless

-Saved

I did try. I read the bible with an open mind. It was stupid, sexist, and repulsive. If you don't think the same, you either didn't read it, or you're a bigot who deserves no place in civilized society.
What falls away is always, and is near.

Also, I am not pretending to be female, this profile picture is my wonderful girlfriend. XD
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#54
RE: Play it safe
(March 15, 2012 at 2:16 pm)Napoleon Wrote:
(March 15, 2012 at 2:13 pm)Saved Wrote: We all need rules by which to live otherwise we would just be savages killing each other.

You know, when you assert that we need to have 'rules to live by otherwise we'd all be savages killing each other', it says a hell of a lot more about what kind of fucked up psychopath YOU are, than anything about us.

Yes it does. If you were such a horrible person before you found god, Saved, why haven't you turned yourself into the police? Obviously you had to have been running around stealing, murdering, and raping before then.
Religion is not the answer-it is the problem. Everything considered, we would be better off without it.~Baubles of Blasphemy~Edwin F. Kagin

"Much better to have the ability to think critically, than the ability to quote scripture. One says you have a functioning mind. The other says you're a parrot." -- The Secular Buddhist
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#55
RE: Play it safe
(March 15, 2012 at 2:16 pm)Napoleon Wrote: You know, when you assert that we need to have 'rules to live by otherwise we'd all be savages killing each other', it says a hell of a lot more about what kind of fucked up psychopath YOU are, than anything about us.

Tentatively, I agree with him here. We do need rules to live by - otherwise all we are doing is living by our instincts and range of the moment desires and then we would be no different than savages.

What we don't need, is to get those rules from a fucked-up, psychopathic, sky-tyrant.
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#56
RE: Play it safe
(March 16, 2012 at 3:09 am)genkaus Wrote: Tentatively, I agree with him here. We do need rules to live by - otherwise all we are doing is living by our instincts and range of the moment desires and then we would be no different than savages.

What we don't need, is to get those rules from a fucked-up, psychopathic, sky-tyrant.

We need some kind of moral system yes. But what I was referring to is that he seems to only get his morals from a book, as though it is impossible to live life without those constraints which are uttered in such a book. Hence it makes him look more of a cunt than anyone else because he is showing how willfully weak he is when he says he has to rely on a book to be a 'good person'.
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#57
RE: Play it safe
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"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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#58
RE: Play it safe
(March 16, 2012 at 7:37 am)Napoleon Wrote: We need some kind of moral system yes. But what I was referring to is that he seems to only get his morals from a book, as though it is impossible to live life without those constraints which are uttered in such a book. Hence it makes him look more of a cunt than anyone else because he is showing how willfully weak he is when he says he has to rely on a book to be a 'good person'.

Hence my preface of 'tentatively'. I saw your criticism of only a section of his statements (a section which did not mention any source of the morals) and it happened to be probably the only line uttered by him that I happen to agree with. I was tentative because I agree with that quote only when taken out of his context.
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#59
RE: Play it safe
(March 15, 2012 at 2:22 pm)Saved Wrote:
(March 15, 2012 at 2:19 pm)Faith No More Wrote:
Saved Wrote:We all need rules by which to live otherwise we would just be savages killing each other.

Didn't you say you only recently found Jesus? Were you raping and murdering before that?

I was a very different person who loved wealth, fast cars, exotic holidays but now I am free from all that and can focus on worship and obedience Big Grin

Sounds great, where do I sign up?

ROFLOL
You are currently experiencing a lucky and very brief window of awareness, sandwiched in between two periods of timeless and utter nothingness. So why not make the most of it, and stop wasting your life away trying to convince other people that there is something else? The reality is obvious.

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#60
RE: Play it safe
(March 15, 2012 at 4:26 am)Saved Wrote: Aren't you atheists frightened that you might be wrong and then when you die..............blah blah blah

I'm frightened. Jesus and me don't get on and so the battle is still going on in my mind.

Oh... never mind. I defeated Jesus with Morfisi. Morfisi is an imaginary character I just invented purely to defeat Jesus. I'm not frightened anymore.

the end.

the end justifies the means.



^ I'd like it known that I'm not in the habit of invented things. I just reread my post and it sounded like something from the Matrix. Smile
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