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Conundrum
#11
RE: Conundrum
(March 29, 2012 at 9:33 am)BoyWonder Wrote: Count on it!

At least your honest Smile
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#12
RE: Conundrum
You know, as an introduction that works for me.

Hi, I'm an asshole, now... Satan... isn't he nice?
Self-authenticating private evidence is useless, because it is indistinguishable from the illusion of it. ― Kel, Kelosophy Blog

If you’re going to watch tele, you should watch Scooby Doo. That show was so cool because every time there’s a church with a ghoul, or a ghost in a school. They looked beneath the mask and what was inside?
The f**king janitor or the dude who runs the waterslide. Throughout history every mystery. Ever solved has turned out to be. Not Magic.
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#13
RE: Conundrum
(March 29, 2012 at 8:33 am)BoyWonder Wrote: If Satan punishes evil doers, isn't he really a good guy?

I think so. Plus he also gave us morals in the garden of eden. He kinda saved us from god in the bible.

So if your inclined to believe in the non-sense satan is not such a bad guy. Greatly misrepresented.
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#14
RE: Conundrum
Well more to the point, lying is a sin, sin wasn't released until the fall.

God punished Adam and Eve for eating an apple after they were told its alright to do so, despite no basis for understanding what a lie was, or that the statement does not supsersede God's first word, because lies don't exist for Adam and Eve.

If God couldn't see the fall coming, he is a retarded God, an impotent one, or a malicious one.

Again, and to the point, if God can see the fall coming, it is not the gift of free will to allow them to be deceived when they cannot conceive of deception itself. It follows, that the Snake (probably Satan thou not named) is actually conducting God's will.
Self-authenticating private evidence is useless, because it is indistinguishable from the illusion of it. ― Kel, Kelosophy Blog

If you’re going to watch tele, you should watch Scooby Doo. That show was so cool because every time there’s a church with a ghoul, or a ghost in a school. They looked beneath the mask and what was inside?
The f**king janitor or the dude who runs the waterslide. Throughout history every mystery. Ever solved has turned out to be. Not Magic.
― Tim Minchin, Storm
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#15
RE: Conundrum
If everything is God's will, isn't Satan, and evil, and temptation, and everything else that's supposed to be bad God's will too? So WTF does he want from us?
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#16
RE: Conundrum
(March 29, 2012 at 10:15 am)BoyWonder Wrote: If everything is God's will, isn't Satan, and evil, and temptation, and everything else that's supposed to be bad God's will too? So WTF does he want from us?

gods only as perfect as the idiots that made him up.
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#17
RE: Conundrum
(March 29, 2012 at 10:15 am)BoyWonder Wrote: If everything is God's will, isn't Satan, and evil, and temptation, and everything else that's supposed to be bad God's will too? So WTF does he want from us?

Nothing, he doesn't exist!!!
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#18
RE: Conundrum
(March 29, 2012 at 8:33 am)BoyWonder Wrote: If Satan punishes evil doers, isn't he really a good guy?

No, because Satan does not punish people, his temptations can lead people to sin and that is his desire, and why, because he perceives he is hurting God.
(March 29, 2012 at 10:15 am)BoyWonder Wrote: If everything is God's will, isn't Satan, and evil, and temptation, and everything else that's supposed to be bad God's will too? So WTF does he want from us?

Again no, God's will wasn't having Lucifer to turn against Him, this action of Lucifer brought evil into existence, Lucifer's temptation of Adam and Eve resulted in them disobeying God, thus bringing sin into the world. What God wants from us is our love.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#19
RE: Conundrum
(March 29, 2012 at 4:24 pm)Godschild Wrote: Again no, God's will wasn't having Lucifer to turn against Him

Kinda shoots down the whole idea of omnipotence then, huh?
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#20
RE: Conundrum
(March 29, 2012 at 4:24 pm)Godschild Wrote: What God wants from us is our love.

Aha! So he IS a dirty old paedophile after all! I knew it!
Thanks for clearing that up, Godschild.
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