RE: Questions questions questions
April 18, 2012 at 5:00 pm
(This post was last modified: April 18, 2012 at 5:01 pm by WallaceT.)
Ok Tiberius.
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 (April 18, 2012 at 4:08 pm)WallaceT Wrote: There's nothing pointlessly random about physics? Very interesting view indeed.Interesting how? Please expand. Physics operates in discernable, predictable ways. If it didn't, we wouldn't be around to know about it. Not for long anyway. (April 18, 2012 at 4:08 pm)WallaceT Wrote: "the rational position is to presume the entity does not exist". I don't agree I think the rational position is to presume nothing.I never said to presume nothing. Let's try it from another angle. We have a system - the Universe - which operates quite happily all by itself. Physical matter obeying physical principles. If someone proposes an entity additional to the system, but for which there is no evidence, the rational position truly is to presume the entity does not exist. I think perhaps part of the problem is due to your partial quoting of my post to make your point. Please refrain from doing this, as there is a risk of misquoting, inadvertantly or otherwise. This is a form of quote-mining and it's not only dishonest but very rude. You get the benefit of the doubt this one time but that's all. Ok?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
 (April 18, 2012 at 3:42 pm)WallaceT Wrote: There is no direct evidence that god exists but an objective observer cannot rule out the possibility 100%. Perhaps god is the universe? Or perhaps it's all just pointless random physics and chance? IMO This is pantheism. What is important is the existence of intelligent designer. Already we call it God Is the universe an intelligent designer. It is impossible to prove one hundred percent. But fair is not an intelligent designer. For this, we can say the universe is not God.  RE: Questions questions questions
April 19, 2012 at 6:29 am
(This post was last modified: April 19, 2012 at 6:30 am by fuckass365.)
If anything is worthy of being "worshiped" as a god, it is the universe. It did create you, although unconsciously.
Also, Tiberius is spot on with his Big Bang explanation. I'm tired of seeing people say, "LOL HOW DID NOTHING EXPLODE INTO EVERYTHING?" Welcome, btw.  (April 18, 2012 at 4:08 pm)WallaceT Wrote: I've studied physics and evolutionary biology. Ever heard the phrase "a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing". Welcome anyway, but so far your scientific knowledge defies the first statement, and I hope you aren't going to make us facepalm on the second.
Self-authenticating private evidence is useless, because it is indistinguishable from the illusion of it. ― Kel, Kelosophy Blog
If you’re going to watch tele, you should watch Scooby Doo. That show was so cool because every time there’s a church with a ghoul, or a ghost in a school. They looked beneath the mask and what was inside? The f**king janitor or the dude who runs the waterslide. Throughout history every mystery. Ever solved has turned out to be. Not Magic. ― Tim Minchin, Storm  RE: Questions questions questions
April 19, 2012 at 8:33 am
(This post was last modified: April 19, 2012 at 8:39 am by WallaceT.)
I may have simplified the big bang theory a little bit but it wasn't that bad. We don't know what existed before the big bang so I wouldn't get too caught up in it.
"An infinitesimal singularity which appeared out of nowhere for reasons unknown. This is the Big Bang theory." Maybe I should've said something like that. Anyway I'm not that interested in it I've seen heaps of docos on it. I find dark matter, dark energy and anti-matter and the bizarre sub-atomic particles much more interesting.
I don't know is never a bad answer, its the beginnings of one.
Welcome again 
Self-authenticating private evidence is useless, because it is indistinguishable from the illusion of it. ― Kel, Kelosophy Blog
If you’re going to watch tele, you should watch Scooby Doo. That show was so cool because every time there’s a church with a ghoul, or a ghost in a school. They looked beneath the mask and what was inside? The f**king janitor or the dude who runs the waterslide. Throughout history every mystery. Ever solved has turned out to be. Not Magic. ― Tim Minchin, Storm
I agree I guess my main point is to realise there are many things we don't know about the universe, it's origins and existence which we may never know or even be capable of comprehending.
Very true, our position is that in the absence of evidence you should say I Don't Know, instead of GodDidIt. Atheism doesn't mean much more than that.
Self-authenticating private evidence is useless, because it is indistinguishable from the illusion of it. ― Kel, Kelosophy Blog
If you’re going to watch tele, you should watch Scooby Doo. That show was so cool because every time there’s a church with a ghoul, or a ghost in a school. They looked beneath the mask and what was inside? The f**king janitor or the dude who runs the waterslide. Throughout history every mystery. Ever solved has turned out to be. Not Magic. ― Tim Minchin, Storm  (April 19, 2012 at 6:29 am)Mosrhun Wrote: If anything is worthy of being "worshiped" as a god, it is the universe. It did create you, although unconsciously. The Universe = nothing. According to Hawkings and Krauss. The big bang was just nothing expanding. 
You are currently experiencing a lucky and very brief window of awareness, sandwiched in between two periods of timeless and utter nothingness. So why not make the most of it, and stop wasting your life away trying to convince other people that there is something else? The reality is obvious.
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