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The boxing thread
#21
RE: The boxing thread
My first favorite boxer is Muhammad Ali. I like him because of his speed, style, footwork, timing, and a strong determination.

My second favorite is Mike Tyson. I especially like his beautiful dodges.




I don't know too much boxing, nor who is actually the greatest, but sometimes I do watch watch certain fights and I enjoy them. A very exciting sport, in my opinion.
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#22
RE: The boxing thread
When I first saw Ali do the shuffle, I was like, psshshhhhh that looks easy. Tried it, fell over. His footwork is indeed immense.
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#23
RE: The boxing thread
I can appreciate the skill and courage,but not the stupidity of the contestants,and sadism sickens me. Boxing is only a toned down gladiatorial game, and no more civilised in essence.Angry
Man is not so much a rational animal as a rationalising one.
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#24
RE: The boxing thread
I agree that there is some sadism involved in boxing (and in any other sport of such nature), but I think that the enjoyment of the contestants lie mostly in their own performance in the ring and winning a fight and less on hurting their opponents. Secondly, I think that the barbarity of the game is much more limited and controlled unlike gladiatorial fights because there are many rules to follow, there is a certain number of rounds, there is a referee (who may stop the fight if he thinks that a boxer is not capable of taking further blows), and the opponents are never supposed to intentionally kill each other.

Boxers are already trained to get hit in the face, getting hurt, punched, and all that stuff. So, they don't really care about the physical pain as much as they do as the (psychological) pain of losing.
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#25
RE: The boxing thread
(June 10, 2012 at 9:09 pm)padraic Wrote: I can appreciate the skill and courage,but not the stupidity of the contestants,and sadism sickens me. Boxing is only a toned down gladiatorial game, and no more civilised in essence.Angry

Would you say the same about all combat sports or is it just boxing?
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#26
RE: The boxing thread
Tyson was solid, he'd devoted his youth to the sport and he was encouraged to do so. Believe they used to say that he threw his uppercuts from the floor..lol. In the end though, he's kind of a boxing could-have-been.

He's kind of the obligatory boxing legend though isn't he, everybody knows Tyson. Check this out btw, first couple of fights, hard to imagine nice guy Tyson isn't it, helping people up and whatnot..lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5sAs_1Fz...re=related
(4:14 btw,...mauled)

As a counterpoint, this was what ended Tysons career.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Exrpoc6GP60



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#27
RE: The boxing thread
(June 11, 2012 at 4:32 pm)Rhythm Wrote: As a counterpoint, this was what ended Tysons career.

Nah, what ended Tysons career was his father figure and mentor Cus D'amato dying.

(June 11, 2012 at 4:32 pm)Rhythm Wrote: In the end though, he's kind of a boxing could-have-been.

And yeah this is pretty much what sums it up. He was looking ferocious in his early career, but he didn't take it to where he should of. If he had of done then all credit to him, but it's impossible for me to rate a fighter who essentially finished his career at an age where he could of proved how great he was.
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#28
RE: The boxing thread
my view is that tyson left his mark, but he did surely bottom out before he should've. i think after cus passed, he turned to women and lost his discipline. the reports say that's what happened to him in japan, to get his focus off of the fight with buster douglass. but couple that with the fact that buster lost his mother the night before that fight and he had quite the motivation to do something unheard of ... and he did. but that put a dent in tyson's armor and people realized he COULD be beat. he still made a mockery of a ton of boxers after that until prison calmed him down and ol' holyfield came thru and wasn't afraid of him. to me, that's when he went from a downward curve, to a b-line into the dirt.
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