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RE: I don't hate God
June 12, 2012 at 8:46 pm
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I once professed to be a deist. I was not then, nor am I now, stupid. If you would like to have our intelligence levels compared, through an independent process, I'd be more than happy to bring you down a few pegs, Cinjin. As much as theists saying that atheists hate God pisses me off, expressions of superior intelligence, because of lack of belief, pisses me off even more. Get off your highhorse, before someone knocks you off it.
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RE: I don't hate God
June 12, 2012 at 8:55 pm
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(June 12, 2012 at 8:46 pm)gringoperry Wrote: ... I'd be more than happy to bring you down a few pegs, Cinjin. ... Get of your highhorse, before someone knocks you off it.
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RE: I don't hate God
June 12, 2012 at 9:35 pm
(June 12, 2012 at 8:37 pm)Napoleon Wrote: (June 12, 2012 at 8:34 pm)Cinjin Wrote: I don't believe for a moment that it's possible to hate a religion without hating their god. After all, without a god there isn't much to hate about the religion.
Ofcourse there is. You can hate all the imbeciles who follow the idea of such a god. Hating the god itself which doesn't exist is stupid. How can you hate something that doesn't exist. You don't, you hate the idea of it.
Quote:Something doesn't have to be real to gain your love and/or hatred of it. I submit Santa Clause as proof of this. I HATE him! Children all over the globe love him.
Again, you hate the idea of Santa Clause. Not Santa Clause himself. Hating that which does not exist is nonsensical.
I try not to hate any group of people, only the occasional person. Hating god or as you say, the idea of god is the same thing to me. Because I'm not strictly an atheist, I have no problem admitting to christians that I hate their god. I hate them all.
Also, I don't presume to tell people what they should or should not declare to love or hate. If you claim not to hate god - I have no problem with that. As much as that statement may be honest for you it is not honest for me. I hate most all of mankind's gods - I hate the idea of gods. Same thing. Semantics in my humble opinion.
(June 12, 2012 at 8:46 pm)gringoperry Wrote: I once professed to be a deist. I was not then, nor am I now, stupid. If you would like to have our intelligence levels compared, through an independent process, I'd be more than happy to bring you down a few pegs, Cinjin. As much as theists saying that atheists hate God pisses me off, expressions of superior intelligence, because of lack of belief, pisses me off even more. Get off your highhorse, before someone knocks you off it.
calm down fella.
It is my opinion that believing in something unprovable is stupid - thus "some level of stupidity" is required to be a christian/muslim/whatever. I was calling my own belief in god stupid - thus myself stupid on some small level. You may want to consider some reading comprehension courses ... or at least think before you speak.
Intelligence contest? I have nothing to prove. My record here on AF stands. Believe whatever you wish.
I'm not going to get involved in some juvenile "smart contest" with someone so easily rattled by someone with a difference of opinion.
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RE: I don't hate God
June 12, 2012 at 9:38 pm
I don't hate God, I just don't have the evidence he exists, but I hate he fan-club though.
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful" - Edward Gibbon (Offen misattributed to Lucius Annaeus Seneca or Seneca the Younger) (Thanks to apophenia for the correction)
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Know more about the world than I knew yesterday and lessen the suffering of others. You'd be surprised how far that gets you' - Neil deGrasse Tyson
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RE: I don't hate God
June 12, 2012 at 9:43 pm
I'd like you to meet my "high horse"
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RE: I don't hate God
June 12, 2012 at 10:32 pm
(June 12, 2012 at 8:46 pm)gringoperry Wrote: I once professed to be a deist. I was not then, nor am I now, stupid. If you would like to have our intelligence levels compared, through an independent process, I'd be more than happy to bring you down a few pegs, Cinjin. As much as theists saying that atheists hate God pisses me off, expressions of superior intelligence, because of lack of belief, pisses me off even more. Get off your highhorse, before someone knocks you off it.
I see where you're coming from there. I don't really think anyone knows anything for sure, and acting like we do I think slows down learning and progress.
Open-mindedness is important
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RE: I don't hate God
June 12, 2012 at 11:20 pm
I don't know, Cinj. "God" is an irrelevancy but I can get pretty worked up at his fucking followers, especially when they start murdering people for rejecting their fucking fantasies.
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RE: I don't hate God
June 13, 2012 at 5:53 am
Cinj Wrote:All christians/muslims (and yes, deists) have at least some varying degree of stupidity because they have chosen to believe idiocy, but not all christians/muslims are bad people.
That doesn't look like an opinion to me, it looks like a statement of fact. In asserting it as fact, you are basically saying that you know there is no God. However, you possess no such knowledge. Additionally, by making such a statement you have already entered into a "smartness competition" by positioning your own intelligence above that of the people you mentioned in your statement.
I aint even mad at ya, I got nothing but love for ya. Do your thing, boy.
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RE: I don't hate God
June 13, 2012 at 5:58 am
I hate god in the same way that I hate Sauron. He is evil and must be defeated!
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RE: I don't hate God
June 13, 2012 at 6:19 am
(June 13, 2012 at 5:58 am)frankiej Wrote: I hate god in the same way that I hate Sauron. He is evil and must be defeated!
Yeah, and don't stick your finger in his ring!
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