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RE: Question: How accurate is the information on this graphic?
June 18, 2012 at 11:41 pm
Oh, really? You do realize that, with our system, it is impossible for us to change a user's post without it sending you an automatic PM?
Also, if you weren't told in a PM, what the fuck were you lying about here?
Drich Wrote:Posting 'links,' I was told when I recently had one deleted, was forbiden. "As this is not a site to post links in." or something to that effect...
Now, if you were told that self promotional links and preaching links are not okay, I can understand that and would believe you. Anything else is demonstrably false. We keep a record of our interactions with users and a record of edited posts, precisely because we get a big fat liar every now and then. I'm all set with you trying to make the staff look bad by lying, so deliver your evidence of your accusation or stand corrected.
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RE: Question: How accurate is the information on this graphic?
June 19, 2012 at 12:19 am
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(June 18, 2012 at 6:34 pm)Stimbo Wrote: The two urls at the bottom of the graphic link to the following articles:
Dating the Oldest New Testament Manuscripts by Peter van Minnen (a papyrologist and ancient historian specializing in Greek documentary texts from Hellenistic and Roman Egypt)
A Brief History of the King James Bible by Dr Laurence M Vance (author, publisher, lecturer, freelance writer, editor of the Classic Reprints series, and director of the Francis Wayland Institute)
They might shed some light. Thanks for the links, I'll read them in the (my) morning. I appreciate this a lot.
well I just started reading into the responses to my question and they're so many I don't have enough time tonight to read them all. Thanks for posting. These questions (and a few others) about the KJV have been bothering me for quite sometime and it's really been irritating. I suspected bullshit for decades. Now that I'm an atheist I have this strange urge to learn how much bullshit (and in what degrees) I've been fed over all these years. Why I feel this way, I don't know, but not knowing is just plain irritating. Learning the facts (or at least a much more plausible and verifiable story/explanation) relieves the irritation. Thanks for posting.
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RE: Question: How accurate is the information on this graphic?
June 19, 2012 at 1:01 am
(June 18, 2012 at 6:48 pm)Shell B Wrote: They forgot to mention that the KJV is largely based on translations by a man that they burnt alive for translating the Bible from Latin.
Edited: Oh, sorry. They strangled him before burning him.
Yup; William Tyndale,first man to translate the bible directly from Greek to English.
For his trouble he was strangled and his body burnt,in Antwerp in 1536.
Quote:Within four years, at the same king's behest, four English translations of the Bible were published in England,[23] including Henry's official Great Bible. All were based on Tyndale's work.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Tyndale
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RE: Question: How accurate is the information on this graphic?
June 19, 2012 at 1:13 am
Sorry, Greek. I had thought it was Latin.
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RE: Question: How accurate is the information on this graphic?
June 19, 2012 at 1:14 am
(June 18, 2012 at 10:26 pm)Drich Wrote: Posting 'links,' I was told when I recently had one deleted, was forbiden.
I don't know the specifics of this incident, but this is not our policy. Posting a link can be against the rules, under some very specific contextual circumstances. Generally speaking, that means it's commercial advertising, self-promotion, or a link to content that would be against the rules to post. I haven't been a mod that long, but in that time, I have never seen any exceptions to that policy - nor do any of the staff appear interested in arbitrary moderation or showing favoritism. I'll also note that in cases where a mod takes an action that is later discussed and determined to be in error, corrective steps are taken.
With that being said, it's my personal opinion that posting a link in support of a post (e.g. as a source reference) is perfectly OK, posting one without any kind of original commentary or argument can be poor form.
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RE: Question: How accurate is the information on this graphic?
June 19, 2012 at 5:02 am
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(June 18, 2012 at 9:59 pm)Stimbo Wrote: I think it's the partially-veiled insults that gets people's backs up.
From whom,Drip? Nah, he lacks the wit to veil an insult. What got to me was the purblind ignorance, which has only recently been surpassed by Elduncio, who has the advantage of also being as dumb as a bag of hammers..
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RE: Question: How accurate is the information on this graphic?
June 19, 2012 at 6:21 am
reading about King James...the guy was most like bi-sexual if not gay.... All his court "favourites" were men.
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RE: Question: How accurate is the information on this graphic?
June 19, 2012 at 11:31 am
(June 18, 2012 at 11:41 pm)Shell B Wrote: Oh, really? You do realize that, with our system, it is impossible for us to change a user's post without it sending you an automatic PM?
Also, if you weren't told in a PM, what the fuck were you lying about here?
Drich Wrote:Posting 'links,' I was told when I recently had one deleted, was forbiden. "As this is not a site to post links in." or something to that effect...
Now, if you were told that self promotional links and preaching links are not okay, I can understand that and would believe you. Anything else is demonstrably false. We keep a record of our interactions with users and a record of edited posts, precisely because we get a big fat liar every now and then. I'm all set with you trying to make the staff look bad by lying, so deliver your evidence of your accusation or stand corrected.
I was told this or am I wrong and this is not a policy of this board, and no one has ever deleted any link i have posted here?
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RE: Question: How accurate is the information on this graphic?
June 19, 2012 at 11:41 am
Tell me where you were told this by a member of the staff, please.
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RE: Question: How accurate is the information on this graphic?
June 19, 2012 at 12:32 pm
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(June 19, 2012 at 11:41 am)Shell B Wrote: Tell me where you were told this by a member of the staff, please.
Honestly I don't remember the name, but I will look.
http://atheistforums.org/thread-13397-page-3.html post number 24 is evidence of my missing link...
I am still looking for the post where I was told we are not to post links.
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