Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: April 27, 2024, 1:10 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Question: How accurate is the information on this graphic?
#61
RE: Question: How accurate is the information on this graphic?
Once you understand that the David-Solomon united kingdom is nothing but horseshit the reality of Judah is that we have only two periods in the entire first millennium when there was a king with even a modicum of independence. Judah was a poverty-stricken shithole until the Assyrians overran the northern kingdom of Israel, Philistia and Aram-Damascus in the 8th century. Judah was a rather poor vassal state of Assyria however and they benefited immensely from the Arabian trade which the Assyrians set up...as did the equally emergent state of Edom. Under Hezekiah, who is attested in the historical record, Judah became prosperous and Jerusalem grew into a city of perhaps 10,000 people...which is about all the water supply would allow. Hezekiah tried to rebel against Assyria, failed miserably, and lost a great deal of territory as a result. Under Manasseh the country rebounded. When the Assyrians were forced to withdraw from their Western territories whoever was king of Judah may well have had an idea about expanding to the north. This is the first time in the millennium that a Judahite king "might" have had the ability to operate independently even if it was an illusion because the Egyptians were also coveting the same territory. It is this period which Finkelstein hangs his hat on even though the attempt achieved no successes and ended in catastrophe.

From then on Judah was a subject province of Babylon, Persia and first Alexander and then the Ptolemaic and finally Seleucid Greeks.
The Greeks were expelled in the Maccabaean revolt which ended c 140 BC. By the close of the second century BC there actually was a kingdom centered on Jerusalem which had made itself a regional power by overrunning territories to the south and north. In fact, the "empire" of John Hyrcanus comes very close to matching in fact what "David" conquered in fiction. I find this more than coincidental. So the answer to the question is the second century kingdom of the Hasmoneans which dissolved into dynastic squabbling with various powers intervening on behalf of one claimant or another to the throne until Pompey the Great arrived in 64BC to sweep away both the remnants of the Seleucid Empire and the Hasmonean dynasty.

At no other times in the entire first millennium did you have kings who might benefit from having a story told of a great king of Judah in the past.
Reply
#62
RE: Question: How accurate is the information on this graphic?
@ Min. Humm, interesting, thanks for taking the time to post. I tell you it's still hard to wrap my mind around the fact that one little book (the Bible) has caused so much trouble in the world for so long and in so many ways. It seems that every era has it's own flavor of abuse. It's just a book. And most of it is horse shit.
I have studied the Bible and the theology behind Christianity for many years. I have been to many churches. I have walked the depth and the breadth of the religion and, as a result of this, I have a lot of bullshit to scrape off the bottom of my shoes. ~Ziploc Surprise

Reply
#63
RE: Question: How accurate is the information on this graphic?
The problem is not the bible.


The problem is that idiots believe it as if it were a fucking bible or something.
Reply
#64
RE: Question: How accurate is the information on this graphic?
(June 23, 2012 at 11:13 pm)Minimalist Wrote: The problem is not the bible.


The problem is that idiots believe it as if it were a fucking bible or something.

Yeah, that's true. If it hadn't been the Bible I suppose it would have been some other holy book.
I have studied the Bible and the theology behind Christianity for many years. I have been to many churches. I have walked the depth and the breadth of the religion and, as a result of this, I have a lot of bullshit to scrape off the bottom of my shoes. ~Ziploc Surprise

Reply
#65
RE: Question: How accurate is the information on this graphic?
See the Koran for an example.


Why could not someone have used the Kama Sutra as a holy book?
Reply
#66
RE: Question: How accurate is the information on this graphic?
Clearly because sex is evil. In a feudal mediaeval society, when the Church guarded the reigns of power as jealously as an alcoholic does a bottle of cheap cider, just about the last thing you want as a member of the ruling class is all those filthy, smelly common people spending all their time shagging away when they should be out tilling the fields and supporting you. Just enough sex to maintain the population, thank you very much, and instill the guilt of sin into them for doing it, but let these horrible workers discover the real joys of the act and there's a danger they'll become dissatisfied with their nasty, brutish and short lives that you graciously accord them. Wherever would it end?

Hint:

At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
Reply
#67
RE: Question: How accurate is the information on this graphic?
(June 24, 2012 at 1:32 am)Minimalist Wrote: Why could not someone have used the Kama Sutra as a holy book?

Life would be a bit interesting if Western society had used that instead of the Holy Bible. Personally I'd prefer Douglass Adams for great quotes like "Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so", "Don't panic" and "A towel, is about the most massively useful thing an interstellar hitchhiker can have." Imagine western society built around that.
I have studied the Bible and the theology behind Christianity for many years. I have been to many churches. I have walked the depth and the breadth of the religion and, as a result of this, I have a lot of bullshit to scrape off the bottom of my shoes. ~Ziploc Surprise

Reply
#68
RE: Question: How accurate is the information on this graphic?
Quote:Clearly because sex is evil.

Only if it is done right.
Reply



Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Graphic Depiction of Torture - the Crucifix Ciel_Rouge 34 9417 November 11, 2012 at 8:57 am
Last Post: Aractus



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)