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The Stage is Yours.
RE: The Stage is Yours.
(July 21, 2012 at 7:01 pm)ElDinero Wrote: Once again, the record will show that I asked a simple question, and got a standard fr0d0 answer. I assume that the elaboration is not in this thread. Since I've never seen it elsewhere, and we all know that any request for you to point me in the right direction will be met by more snide shit and emoticons, I trust that everyone will take this as confirmation that fr0d0 either cannot or will not elaborate on his original post in this thread in which he stated that Christianity was the only logical conclusion, without giving any reason as to why.

Just to clarify what just happened to any readers, this was Fr0d0s only real response to the issue raised by the OP;
(July 4, 2012 at 6:46 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: The Christian God neccessarily exists as the only reasonable conclusion (world view). All other conclusions fail.

The proposition that empiricism alone can inform a world view is a contradicting metaphysical claim.

No further explanation as to why this is the case is offered nor is further explanation into his knowledge of the metaphysical. When ElDinero further inquired into this Fr0d0 proceeded to, as he so often does, shamelessly retreat with insults. I think its fair to say this is disgraceful behaviour and should not be seen as acceptable conduct when faced with a legitimate request to elaborate.
"That is not dead which can eternal lie and with strange aeons even death may die." 
- Abdul Alhazred.
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From someone who it's proven asks a question that has just been answered, and another person who freely admits that they can't be bothered to read the answers, I find that hilarious. We play this, "sir, he didn't answer" game regularly. There never is any substance to it.
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RE: The Stage is Yours.
(July 27, 2012 at 12:43 am)fr0d0 Wrote: From someone who it's proven asks a question that has just been answered, and another person who freely admits that they can't be bothered to read the answers, I find that hilarious. We play this, "sir, he didn't answer" game regularly. There never is any substance to it.

I read through this entire thread, please don't attempt to bullshit past this. You don't answer questions about your strange little fiction. You run around in circles until everyone else gets dizzy from watching you chase your own tail, then you run away presumably to dig up the front lawn and take a shit in the living room. Unfortunately for you I'm not in the habit of letting ignorant little mutts get away with that and I'm going to make a habit of rubbing your nose in your own shit whenever necessary.
You amateurish attempts to discredit me border on insulting to the intellect of the readers who can also read through this thread.
People ask you a question and you either insultingly deflect it or give an answer that makes a sweeping statement but reveals no vital information. If its the latter and people enquire further into it you resort to the insulting deflection.
The results are always the same and if you think anyones fooled you're even more sad and deluded than I give you credit for.

ElDineros request was perfectly reasonable and had you provided a legitimate answer it would of been resolved and moved on from quickly. It is understandable why he would hesitate to sift through 18 pages. Luckily, I did it for him and confirmed you have not given any further explanation of your answer to the OP which is why you refuse to present one.
ElDinero called you out and he was right to do so.

If anyone would like to see previous instances of where he has done this type of blatant, shameless and rather undignified type of deflection please lower your eyes to my signature where two brief examples are provided.
"That is not dead which can eternal lie and with strange aeons even death may die." 
- Abdul Alhazred.
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Raphael

I have answered the question in depth throughout the thread. I have answered your questions throughout the thread. When you ask a question directly after the answer again, I point that out to you.

Your signature is a glaring example of your blatent hypocracy. I covered that many times and you blanked every response. I had you on block becaus of this. Yesterday you actually made a point in a post that I unhid, and I thought, wow, I've misjudged this person. And here you are back with the old bullshit. I'm sorry you're going back on block. 99% bullshit needs trashing.

Eldinero. I'm not going to do all the legwork for someone. If you want to address a point that I've made, then that is great. I'm very interested in responding to ideas and developing my own. This requires some investment from you. If I do all of the work for you, you have no investment. You play your cheap shot, and you're out. I know Elds position on a lot of things. We've established both of our positions with each other, and there's nothing more to be said. Two reasons why I think putting any effort into answering him would be counter productive. The ball is in his court.
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RE: The Stage is Yours.
(July 27, 2012 at 1:58 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Raphael

I have answered the question in depth throughout the thread. I have answered your questions throughout the thread. When you ask a question directly after the answer again, I point that out to you.

Your signature is a glaring example of your blatent hypocracy. I covered that many times and you blanked every response. I had you on block becaus of this. Yesterday you actually made a point in a post that I unhid, and I thought, wow, I've misjudged this person. And here you are back with the old bullshit. I'm sorry you're going back on block. 99% bullshit needs trashing.

ElDinero. I'm not going to do all the legwork for someone. If you want to address a point that I've made, then that is great. I'm very interested in responding to ideas and developing my own. This requires some investment from you. If I do all of the work for you, you have no investment. You play your cheap shot, and you're out. I know Elds position on a lot of things. We've established both of our positions with each other, and there's nothing more to be said. Two reasons why I think putting any effort into answering him would be counter productive. The ball is in his court.

I wasn't actually talking about the debate we had but if you want to talk about how valid your answer was during that everyone seemed to think conclusively that you hadn't answered shit and were doing exactly what I described; chasing your own tail till everyone gets dizzy and you can run away. This is generally what you do, that was just one of the rare moments it was put under a spotlight.
My signature is to commemorate these moments lest anyone forget.

Back to what I *was* talking about. I already looked through this thread Fr0d0, I've already confirmed what ElDinero was saying. You made no further explaination to your answer of the OP which was:

(July 4, 2012 at 6:46 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: The Christian God neccessarily exists as the only reasonable conclusion (world view). All other conclusions fail.

The proposition that empiricism alone can inform a world view is a contradicting metaphysical claim.

No further explanation was made. ElDinero is right in this. Now you can elaborate on this answer all you like now I've pointed it out. I honestly don't care, thats not my debate. What I do care about is that you were incredibly rude to ElDinero for correctly pointing out you hadn't made an effort to further explain your answer to him despite his request and insisted dogmatically you had.
That deserves an apology and unless you're a total ass I think you should provide one to him.
"That is not dead which can eternal lie and with strange aeons even death may die." 
- Abdul Alhazred.
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RE: The Stage is Yours.
lol

Eldinero has no idea if he was correct or not - he said he couldn't be bothered to check. If he has a point to make, I'll gladly address it. I'm certainly not going to waste any effort on his behalf when I am sure he will put no effort into his reply. If he's interested he will make the effort. If he is not, nothing is lost.

You seem to have an inflated idea about what constitutes rueness. It seems to be defined as anything that you don't like. My kids when they were about 5 were the same.

For the record, I have answered his question. I'm not surprised that you missed it.
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RE: The Stage is Yours.
(July 27, 2012 at 2:37 am)fr0d0 Wrote: lol

Eldinero has no idea if he was correct or not - he said he couldn't be bothered to check. If he has a point to make, I'll gladly address it. I'm certainly not going to waste any effort on his behalf when I am sure he will put no effort into his reply. If he's interested he will make the effort. If he is not, nothing is lost.

You seem to have an inflated idea about what constitutes rueness. It seems to be defined as anything that you don't like. My kids when they were about 5 were the same.

For the record, I have answered his question. I'm not surprised that you missed it.

Irrelevant, I checked and he was correct.
Rudeness takes many forms, insulting deflections are one of these. I imagine most 5 year olds have better manners than you.
If I missed something, which I doubt, present it or else grow a pair and apologize to ElDinero for your mistake.
"That is not dead which can eternal lie and with strange aeons even death may die." 
- Abdul Alhazred.
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What is irrelevant?
The words are presented.
Why should I apologise to Eldinero? I told him I wouldn't do the work for him. I'm telling you the same thing. I owe you both nothing.
Come into chat later and I can properly take the piss. Or will you run away?
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RE: The Stage is Yours.
(July 27, 2012 at 2:37 am)fr0d0 Wrote: lol

Eldinero has no idea if he was correct or not - he said he couldn't be bothered to check. If he has a point to make, I'll gladly address it. I'm certainly not going to waste any effort on his behalf when I am sure he will put no effort into his reply. If he's interested he will make the effort. If he is not, nothing is lost.

As I've already asked you, do you think it's unreasonable of me to be reluctant to go through a reasonably long thread looking for a post that history tells me with virtual certainty doesn't exist?

I gave you the option to point me in the right direction, to tell me where I might find the elaboration to your original post. As I said before, you always have the chance to help the dialogue, but you would rather not. Your first post is clear evidence of that, because even a simpleton would realise that your original post contains no explanatory value whatsoever, which is quite clearly what the OP was after.

Now RD has been through the thread and confirmed my suspicion that the explanation of your first post does not exist, I am quite content that I was right and that once again you have contributed nothing and know exactly what you're doing, and that you are doing it simply for a reaction. If you disagree, then tell me where I can find your explanation.

Why does this sort of thing always have to be so difficult with you? I find it hilarious that you would accuse RD of 5 year old tactics when this game of 'If he doesn't want to look for it, I won't tell him where it is' is precisely that.
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I think I'll be able to point to the posts in this thread where fr0d0 gave his 'answers' to the questions that you guys are asking him. Big Grin

But, I will do that in the next two or three days because right now I'm not at my house. I've been on a vacation with my family for the past week. Hence my short intermission.
Fr0d0, I have a few more things to say in response to your last reply to me. I'll post it when I get back.
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