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The Babylon 5 thread
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Babylon 5 and Farscape are probably two of the best Sci-fi series EVER!!!

We have the DVD's of both and watch them on a regular basis.

The best being that B5 was a complete story from the beginning.

Many,many elements of LOTR in there.
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(August 8, 2012 at 11:39 pm)padraic Wrote: Agreed.They did the usual American thing: Take fair-to-good idea then beat it to death with a stick.

Successful US TV series often go on at least one season too long.Greedy bastards. I wouldn't mind if they included some graphic and inventive alien sex.

In this case, the problem was that the author thought he was only getting 4 seasons, which was why season 4 was so fast paced. He was packing the Shadow-Vorlon war and the Earth Civil War, originally intended as seasons 4 and 5, into the last season because he thought that was all he was going to get.

Then his contract was renewed. He had a whole season to fill and he'd already used up everything he'd originally intended for it.

My understanding is he then went, "um, wtf do I do now? How about hippy telepaths?" and much of the season turned out to be half-baked crap.

At least that's the back story I heard. Not sure if it's true but it would explain a lot.
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I love B5! Being a hard sci-fi fan and a sometimes critic of Straczynski's comic works, I was pleasantly surprised by the quality of his work on B5.

Fave episode: Deconstruction of Falling Stars (S4, E22). Future-histories do it for me.
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So, two questions I have wondered about.

1. When Susan gave up her uniform and stated "I think I loved Talia", did she mean that as a friend or were they romantically involved?

2. Earthforce = America, Centauri = Russia, Narn = Middle East, but what do the Minbari represent?
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1. There is some speculation about that. I honestly think Susan loved her as a friend, despite her PsyCorp status, which is why it was a big deal. Would be kind of cool if it was romantic, but I don't think so.

2. Maybe Japan?
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(August 9, 2012 at 1:28 pm)Annik Wrote: 1. There is some speculation about that. I honestly think Susan loved her as a friend, despite her PsyCorp status, which is why it was a big deal. Would be kind of cool if it was romantic, but I don't think so.

2. Maybe Japan?

Yeah, I think so too.

I heard one speculation that they would represent Scandinavians, but once I stared to think about their behaviour and especially their proficiency in martial arts, I thought that maybe they're Asian.
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(August 9, 2012 at 1:22 pm)Kayenneh Wrote: So, two questions I have wondered about.

1. When Susan gave up her uniform and stated "I think I loved Talia", did she mean that as a friend or were they romantically involved?

It was pretty obvious to me they were more than just friends but the relationship was handled very discretely. It was still the 90s after all.

"I think I loved Talia" would hardly be a great confession if they were just friends. That was, after all, the context. They each had to reveal some kind of secret. The friendship itself was no secret.

The moment where Talia broke Susan's heart was played out as if they were more than just friends.

It seemed Susan was bisexual, as she later lamented not "boffing" Marcus while he was still alive. Then again, I'm sure Strazinsky was looking forward to a future where we we're no longer obsessed with body parts.

IMHO, I think we're all degrees of bisexual and for many of us, a close enough emotional connection will make gender negotiable, but that's just my perspective as a mostly-heterosexual-bisexual.

Quote:2. Earthforce = America, Centauri = Russia, Narn = Middle East, but what do the Minbari represent?

The Far East, I should think. At least that was my impression.
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