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RE: Atheism +
August 25, 2012 at 9:44 pm
(August 25, 2012 at 9:32 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: Quote: Some real fire and brimstone from Dick Carrier:
"In the meantime, I call everyone now to pick sides (not in comments here, but publicly, via Facebook or other social media): are you with us, or with them; are you now a part of the Atheism+ movement, or at least cheer and approve it’s values and aims (since you don’t have to label yourself), or are you going to stick with Atheism Less and its sexism and cruelty and irrationality?"
I read that blog post. I kept having visions of him in a shiny suit and pounding on a pulpit.
Religion is not the answer-it is the problem. Everything considered, we would be better off without it.~Baubles of Blasphemy~Edwin F. Kagin
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RE: Atheism +
August 25, 2012 at 9:44 pm
(This post was last modified: August 25, 2012 at 9:45 pm by Napoléon.)
(August 25, 2012 at 9:31 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: To be fair Nap non-golfers don't have a negative reputation re-enforced by extremely empty vessels who release all manner of extraordinary noise of the zealously religious variety that attempts to demonise us. The point of the whole "plus" thing is to humanise us to the masses I think.
Yes, humanise us by giving us a nice flashy label to group us all together with, that'll work.
But yeah, you're right, non-golfers aren't reviled like atheists are (by some people at least).
But the non-bacon eating society sure is!!!!! 
Quote:Now if you put "golfers plus", *then* your example would be valid as it is public opinion that most people who play golf as a serious past time are rich, stuffy, emotionless robots whos only pleasures aside from that rather dull "sport" are the expensive night-caps they have before they swiftly lose consciousnous and sink into a dreamless sleep and the brief moment before they realize the whole painfully boring process is finally over and their souless husk is left irrevocably barren as the loud, unceasing beep of the heart monitor resonates through out the private hospital they've spent their last moments in. Then the doctor pulls the plug and calls it...
Sorry, what were we talking about again?
You lost me.
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RE: Atheism +
August 25, 2012 at 9:51 pm
(August 25, 2012 at 9:44 pm)Napoléon Wrote: (August 25, 2012 at 9:31 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: Now if you put "golfers plus", *then* your example would be valid as it is public opinion that most people who play golf as a serious past time are rich, stuffy, emotionless robots whos only pleasures aside from that rather dull "sport" are the expensive night-caps they have before they swiftly lose consciousnous and sink into a dreamless sleep and the brief moment before they realize the whole painfully boring process is finally over and their souless husk is left irrevocably barren as the loud, unceasing beep of the heart monitor resonates through out the private hospital they've spent their last moments in. Then the doctor pulls the plug and calls it...
Sorry, what were we talking about again?
You lost me.
Sorry, spot of prejudice inspired by an exs relations shining through there. It happens from time to time.
Then I stop indulgently envisaging their deaths, snap out of it and act like nothing happened.
I jest of course... *shifty look*
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RE: Atheism +
August 25, 2012 at 10:11 pm
(This post was last modified: August 25, 2012 at 10:13 pm by LastPoet.)
Damnit, it makes me fucking angry, really. These idiots think they can speak for atheists, when appending claims of their own. Is their hunger for power so strong that they need to climb their supposed moral high ground? Fuck me if I ever fall for that weakness. Yet, they associate that to atheism, that's just the rejection of god claims. Fuck them and their personality cults.
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RE: Atheism +
August 25, 2012 at 10:17 pm
More accurate:
Quote:Atheists plus we care about social justice (except social justice for men),
Atheists plus we support women’s rights (men's rights don't exist, anyone who tells you otherwise is a misogynist),
Atheists plus we fight homophobia and transphobia (whilst at the same time mocking things like male rape),
Atheists plus we use critical thinking and skepticism (except when it comes to opinions that differ from those of the hivemind).
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RE: Atheism +
August 25, 2012 at 10:44 pm
I'm going to call myself a Popeyeist: I am what I am. Ug, ugugugugug.
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RE: Atheism +
August 25, 2012 at 11:44 pm
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(August 25, 2012 at 9:12 pm)LastPoet Wrote: Label yourselves at will, I am an atheist because I don't believe in god claims [big fucking period]. It sounds like you have added I'm a radical individualist, and every other atheist should be too after you own "fucking period".
Personally I don't like the label Atheism+, I think they should call themselves what they are: liberal humanists. Don't shy away from the word 'humanism' because some people misuse it. Reclaim the word, redefine it.
But whatever atheists call themselves, it's inevitable that we will form sub-groups and barrack for our team. If we all remain radical individualists, that's a sure recipe to remain politically impotent and historical roadkill. So Atheism+ is a step in the right direction.
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RE: Atheism +
August 26, 2012 at 12:02 am
Sorry, I mock male rape all the time . . .
Wait, no. That's just creepy fantasizing. Carry on. /kidding
Nah, in all seriousness, good for them for labeling themselves. I'm not much of a labeler myself. Makes me feel like I have to conform or eventually deal with people telling me I'm doing it wrong. I can't find it in me to be bothered by them. As atheists, we don't get groupthink. Some atheists like groupthink. Therefore, the make groups so they can feel united in some way. Huzzah for them. I don't give a shit what they do.
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RE: Atheism +
August 26, 2012 at 12:02 am
(This post was last modified: August 26, 2012 at 12:03 am by Oldandeasilyconfused.)
Who is Nick Carrier and why should I give a fuck what he says?
Going by Summer's quote, he comes across as an obnoxious cunt,with fascist undertones..
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RE: Atheism +
August 26, 2012 at 1:49 am
Idiots..
I say, let them brand themselves. At least it'll be easier for the rest of the world to avoid those cunts 
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura
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